Several of you have also asked where we draw the line on hate. We don’t allow titles on Netflix that are designed to incite hate or violence, and we don’t believe The Closer crosses that line.
Cis people do not get to decide where that fucking line is.
I recognize, however, that distinguishing between commentary and harm is hard, especially with stand-up comedy which exists to push boundaries. Some people find the art of stand-up to be mean spirited but our members enjoy it, and it’s an important part of our content offering.
“You’re all too sensitive to take a joke.”
Holy shit what a disaster of a PR statement. If I wasn’t stealing netflix already I would cancel.
Totally agree. There is a metric fucking ton of stand up that doesn’t punch down. That’s been a standard for years.
but our members enjoy it
"Some people find our party to be mean spirited but our members enjoy it." - Adolf Hitler, 1935.
I know I'm not sticking around this shithole country long enough to see Dave Chapelle take over as chancellor.
We don’t allow titles on Netflix that are designed to incite hate or violence
The 16:9 cut of Seinfield suggests otherwise.
Chappelle bragged about being "cancelled" because of some negative tweets he got and people saying they're done with him. Its like motherfucker, you gained fans from this and said an opinion that over 100 million Americans agree with or at least DGAF.
I still think the only person to ever get "cancelled" is Colin Kaepernick. Dave will be fine and still adored as a comedian.
I remember a lot of communists getting canceled during the red scare and McCarthyism of the 1950s….
True. I guess I should've qualified my last statement with "during the era of 'cancel culture'". I feel like canceling became a term/thing people use in the last 5 years.
The Dixie Chicks were not much spoken of in the 2000s after Natalie Maines spoke out about Bush. They managed a comeback years later but were kinda out during some of their prime years.
Bill Maher was literally canceled but then ended up on HBO so that's a wash.
The Dixie Chicks were at the height of their careers and one of the top acts in the world. Overnight, you’d be hard pressed to find a single radio station that would play them. Their comeback during the Trump years was basically riding the culture war for a comeback, but the original cancellation was legit a massive push from those in power to silence them
Yeah exactly. I just figured I needed the disclaimer or else I was gonna get someone pointing out that they're still around.
I had no idea who they were prior to the Bush thing. I'm also in Canada where we got to spend the Iraq war feeling really superior to Americans, so I think they actually got more airplay here afterwards.
Al Qaeda #cancelled the World Trade Center, much to the chagrin of the losers and haters
Celebrities and MSM do plenty to hype up "cancel culture" despite the fact that most of the time these "cancelled" celebrities stay and sometimes become more relevant. I fucking hate having to constantly hear about celebrities who whine about cancel culture.
Nah, dozens of people have been cancelled and had their entire careers ruined for merely criticizing the zionist regime.
TBh, lots of people start disappearing from the mainstream when they start to get too radical, Kaepernick, Thunberg, Malala, the more radical teenagers from Parkland (some of them were abolitionists, bet you didn't know).
also some people were rightfully cancelled, like, Andrea Smith for instance got dropped the minute she was outed as a pretendian
Passing off bigotry as "content" ffs. So glad I cancelled Netflix last month
Same shit as claiming that platforming hate speech is “fostering a conversation”. It’s disgusting.
In the name of "fostering a conversation," we're holding a tournament style debate club thunderdome in which minorities grovel before a slackjawed audience and are forced to justify their right to exist. We'll be eliminating two contestants every week until we arrive at a winner.
:libertarian-approaching:
I 'have' Netflix but have yet to lay a dime. Someone named Mike pays for it. I have no idea who they are but they don't use their account and curved a laptop years ago without clearing their passwords.
This is so fuckin funny, big shout-out to Mike for paying for your Netflix subscription
I didn't take Mike's credit card info or read his emails. If he's gonna keep paying for Netflix I'll use that tho.
Sarandos also said that Chappelle’s last special, Sticks & Stones, is Netflix’s “most watched, stickiest, and most award winning stand-up special to date.
That is not an acceptable response.
"we are financially incentivized to produce bigoted content, because your disgusted reactions only provide free advertisement for us"
This is what they mean
To put it more simply: "Both Netflix and Dave are rolling in cash, so no, we're not going to do anything about this."
Pirating from streaming services is and always has been the ethical choice.
The streaming market has now reached the critical mass of it being easier than paying for all the services too. It’s cutting the cord all over again, just now it also owns the TERFs
There was a sweet middle-ground during which just subscribing to Netflix was easier than figuring out the hip new way to download a chunk of media.
But there are so many god damn services now. And lots of them still try to inject ads into the stream. Nobody is going to pony up $10/mo for every damned channel (and $50/mo if you want sports). It's dumb. I'm just going to steal it now.
The twitter thread from the woman Netflix fired is especially powerful and I encourage everyone to read it:
https://twitter.com/rainofterra/status/1445914236668895236?s=21
Netflix then suspended Field along with two other employees for trying to attend a director-level meeting they weren’t invited to.
It's so funny the idea of getting fired for gate crashing. I want to know if this was in person or over zoom.
Everyone on reddit is screaming about how the article is so misleading and she was fired for trying to attend a meeting she wasn't a part of.
Like yeah you fucking dipshit I'm sure that it's totally normal for companies to respond to trying to attend a meeting you're not in by firing you on the spot and totally not about anything else.
If there's a silver lining, it's that since Netflix fires aggressively (they will fire you after a year if you meet expectations, as it means you're not a "superstar" employee) there is always a glut of companies waiting to hire anyone who worked there.
Idk if you're employed in an office or not, but crashing a board of directors meeting will 100% get you fired everywhere.
Does this mean that Netflix is going to give the trans employee her own comedy special now?
-7DeadlyFetishes
Literally anything is better than Terf comedy. All terf comedy follows the same beat of "Millenials now want us to call them by thier preferred pronoun! What? can I call myself (insert teh epic random object here)?"
-7DeadlyFetishes
What? can I call myself (insert teh epic random object here)?
To which I would reply “sure. If that is how you identify and it makes you happier than I will do that.”
If/when they keep going though, you are then obligated to gently pull the trigger on your rifle and send them back to terf hell.
The last thing reactionaries will see and hear is a sarcastic eyeroll and a deep beleaguered sigh. Maybe the occasional "I'm not mad, I'm just...dissapointed"
DO IT YOU COWARDS! FUCK IT! GIVE EVERYONE A NETFLIX COMEDY SPECIAL! I'm pretty funny. I could manage.
Total mismanagement from Netflix, but unfortunately very unsurprising given their cult-like company culture.
Also, let me grab my bat. I’ll help.
:fidel-bat:
Full internal Netflix memo that was leaked. It’s fucking trash.
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Directors/Estaff:
I wanted to follow up on The Closer - Dave Chappelle’s latest special - as several of you have reached out following QBR asking what to say to your teams. It never feels good when people are hurting, especially our colleagues, so I wanted to give you some additional context. You should also be aware that some talent may join third parties in asking us to remove the show in the coming days, which we are not going to do.
Chappelle is one of the most popular stand-up comedians today, and we have a long standing deal with him. His last special, Sticks & Stones, also controversial, is our most watched, stickiest, and most award winning stand-up special to date. As with our other talent, we work hard to support their creative freedom - even though this means there will always be content on Netflix some people believe is harmful, like Cuties, 365 Days, 13 Reasons Why, or My Unorthodox Life.
Several of you have also asked where we draw the line on hate. We don’t allow titles on Netflix that are designed to incite hate or violence, and we don’t believe The Closer crosses that line. I recognize, however, that distinguishing between commentary and harm is hard, especially with stand-up comedy which exists to push boundaries. Some people find the art of stand-up to be mean-spirited but our members enjoy it, and it’s an important part of our content offering.
In terms of our commitment to inclusion, we’re working hard to ensure more people see their lives reflected on screen and that under-represented communities are not defined by the single story. So we’re proud of titles like Sex Education, Young Royals, Control Z and Disclosure. Externally, particularly in stand-up comedy, artistic freedom is obviously a very different standard of speech than we allow internally as the goals are different: entertaining people versus maintaining a respectful, productive workplace.
Today’s conversation on Entertain the World was timely. These are hard and uncomfortable issues. We all bring different values and perspectives so thank you for being part of the conversation as it’s important we’re clear about our operating principles.
-Ted
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If you ever wanted a look into how these fuckers think, well then here you go.
Good. Me too. In a better world, these fuckers would either be gulaged for re-education or just executed.
Anyone transphobic in a position of power realistically deserves a bullet. Any brainwormed lumpens potentially should be given a chance to be systemically re-educated.
but our members enjoy it, and it’s an important part of our content offering.
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This is the most “written by cis people for cis people” thing I’ve ever seen. And I’ve seen The Closer
"Every human being on Earth had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on Earth" tell me you haven't read Macbeth without telling me you haven't read Macbeth.
This is peak Chappell's idea of feminism. Women aren't people unless they are children or mother's, but if they are either of those they should be worshipped to a level that breaks a commandment.
wait is it supposed to be a comedy special? because bitching about twitter drama sounds like absolute dogshit standup. like start a leftist podcast if you wanna do that dude.
Come the revolution, everyone who claims that they've been "cancelled" should be rounded up and thrown into the cancel pit
He noted the cancellation of Harry Potter author JK Rowling as one particular injustice.
Ah, yes. The woman with the multi-billion dollar media empire built on the back of a children's book she cribbed from an assortment of other authors. The woman who can get booked on any major network news outlet for an interview by whispering "New Harry Potter book" into the right ear. The chronically online Twitter poster who will not stop retconning her novels a decade after they've hit the second hand market.
Love how this is Chappelle's idea of "Someone who got Cancelled".
I wish someone would cancel Dave Chappelle's ass. :gui:
In a statement emailed to The Verge, a Netflix spokesperson pushed back against the idea that Field was suspended for tweeting. “It is absolutely untrue to say that we have suspended any employee for tweeting about this show,” they said. “Our employees are encouraged to disagree openly and we support their right to do so.
lol. lmao.
