• Parzivus [any]
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    3 years ago

    I kinda get why libs have brainworms, if this was the way the world was supposed to work under my ideology I would simply go insane

  • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Thank God for Joe Manchin.… I say that simply because if Joe Manchin wasn’t there, there would be a Republican there.

    - Cory Booker

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    The r/politics threads are still largely pushing :vote:. I've given up on trying to change liberals and just hope that the collapse they've created consumes them. Genuinely washes them and everything they love away like a divine flood. Nothing can happen until society is given chemotherapy for liberalism.

    • Mother [any]
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      3 years ago

      The chemotherapy is climate change

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      It's morbidly hilarious. I did see a few people seemingly having the epiphany of 'hey, it doesn't matter how many Dems there are because these people are just taking the fall', but so many still in full throat screaming 'VOET'

      Just think, if the dems have 81 senate seats, they could have 32 Manchins, Sinemas, and Lieberm(e)nn

      • happybadger [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        There couldn't be more than two bad democrats. These are the bad ones. We get rid of those two and everything will be great. None of them are corrupt or hostile to progress, they're just not strong enough to confront the wicked witch of the senate. Yes I'm wearing a diaper right now I don't see what your point is and that's an ad hominem attack.

      • theChariot [any]
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        3 years ago

        Exactly. It's not even taking the fall, there's so much incentive to be the "moderate" who does it!

  • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    god the democrats are so fucking lazy they can't even discipline a couple members for their milktoast agenda

      • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
        ·
        3 years ago

        they're losers who want to lose, i guess im just pining for some energy in my political theater

    • InternetLefty [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      This is certainly happening under the purview of the party or at the least those who run it. The ruling class only stands to benefit from this type of theatrical nonsense. This is 100% just acting.

      • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        i flip back and forth, sometimes they seem a little calculating but some shit... sometimes its really like democrats drank the lemonade and are genuinely comically inept

        • InternetLefty [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          To see through it, just ask - "Qui bono?" Who stands to benefit from this course of events. The answer is the ruling class, deepening the quagmire of bourgeoise democracy

        • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Neither is Great Britain, but milk toast sounds like something that only the British would accept into their lives.

          • an_engel_on_earth [he/him, they/them]
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            3 years ago

            the more you learn

            "Caspar Milquetoast is a comic strip character created by H. T. Webster for his cartoon series The Timid Soul. The character's name is derived from a bland and fairly inoffensive food, milk toast, which, light and easy to digest, is an appropriate food for someone with a weak or "nervous" stomach. Because of the popularity of Webster's character, the term milquetoast came into general usage in American English to mean "weak and ineffectual""

  • DasKarlBarx [he/him,comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Oh no then the Dem party will have to find another couple senators to hold up legislation so they don't have to pass anything meaningful.

  • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Wouldn't put it past him. In 2001, Republican Senator Jim Jeffords of Vermont switched parties in a 50-50 Senate to hand control to the Democrats, and in 2009 GOP Senator Arlen Specter switched to the Democrats giving them a 60-vote majority to pass Obamacare over a filibuster.

    I imagine Manchin will switch parties should the GOP win the Senate in 2022 so he can remain in the majority regardless.

    • PeterTheAverage [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Does it really make sense for him to do this though? Right now he's the center of all attention and has all the power, if he switched he'd just be another Republican and have no power. It's an empty threat, but it looks like it already worked because the progressives have already agreed to make big cuts.

      • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        What power? He wants republican shit and handing them senate control would do that with way less of a headache.

        • CrimsonSage [any]
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          3 years ago

          You forget these people are lizards, they love being in a position to force people to grovel for scraps. Remember the pure joy McCain got giving that thumbs down while fucking dying of brain cancer?

      • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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        edit-2
        3 years ago

        If he switched in a GOP controlled Senate he then becomes the most moderate Republican in the caucus and can do the same shit he's doing now just to the GOP. Senators in the minority can't do anything except filibuster. Senators in the majority get to shape policy.

        I do not think this is an empty threat at all. And even if it is, Manchin's threat to nuke the reconciliation bill is absolutely not empty. Manchin wants nothing to pass. If the negotiation falls apart Manchin wins.

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    I'm curious what two step exit strategies in the more openly rightwing wing of the Democratic party look like. The two step exit strategy i'm familiar with goes like

    spoiler

    Step 1 :purge-1:

    Step 2 :purge-2:

    But this will probably be more like

    spoiler

    Step 1 :biden-troll: :death-to-the-poor:

    Step 2 :biden-fall: :death-to-the-poor: :death-to-the-poor: :death-to-the-poor:

  • SovietyWoomy [any]
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    3 years ago

    There's one vote to impeach Biden after the democrats finish throwing the 2022 elections.