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something to do with the media trying to fan the flames of a new cold war? maybe r*dditors might introspect about consequences of their own rampant fearmongering? no sweaty dont be silly, its black peoples skull shape

  • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    its black peoples skull shape

    The standard :lmayo: move to deflect criticism for causing a huge rise in hate crimes: blame it on black people (even though the FBI data shows it was mostly mayos).

    All right, I spent only a few minutes in there and that's enough of that.

    • RandyLahey [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      "as an asian and definitely not a larping mayo, i can confirm that all hate crimes are done by blacks, but us asians never report it because our asian culture is all about face, and reporting it would bring shame to our ancestors"

      • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        nah, there are tons of uncle chans out there who are wigwashed by 4chanisms (which is basically what reddit is now). There's probably an equal chance of it being a mayolarp vs. an actual brainwashed and fully parasitized Asian person

        • regul [any]
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          3 years ago

          the bayarea sub is overrun by the weird r/asianmasculinity types

            • regul [any]
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              3 years ago

              The fuck are you talking about? It's full of incels blaming Asian women dating white men for their own failure to get laid.

                • regul [any]
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                  3 years ago

                  They literally mounted a coordinated harassment campaign

                  https://slate.com/technology/2021/09/mens-rights-asians-aznidentity-stop-asian-hate-reddit.html

    • blobjim [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I think there's an ongoing op on reddit to distance black and Chinese people from each other (not that these demographics use reddit much). I remember on r/movies it was constantly brought up that Chinese people are racist towards black people and that's why X thing about a movie.

      • Alex_Jones [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I remember a lot of narratives trying to push division between Asian shop owners and black protestors in LA after the police attacked Rodney King.

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        lol, :reddit-logo: mayos like to say "look, Chinese people are just as racist as white Americans!" When it is, in fact, "look, the vast majority of Chinese people have never met a black person in their life" (in the case of Chinese people in China, of course).

        • lenindog [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          A lot of Asian Americans are effectively mayo, talking about race like this is kinda weird tho ngl

          • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            talking about race like this is kinda weird tho ngl

            It's always important to remember that the definition of "white" is always changing, and that it doesn't actually mean a whole lot other than as a social construct.

            But yeah, I'm discussing it in the context that Redditor types like those in that thread usually do.

    • LoudMuffin [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      black people exist to shift the contradictions of capital on to an easily identifiable group that we can then collectively denigrate

      there is no falling rate of profit, only black people getting into huge fist fights at Chuck E Cheese

      since no one wants to be in an enormous group melee, all the tax paying (since black people do not pay taxes, even the ones working at the Chuck E Cheeses) patrons leave (because this is where the rich suburban white people go with their kids, right into the hood)

      if there were no black people then Chuck E Cheese would make more money and since capitalism is like an escalator then everyone would have more money

      it's basic economics

      essentially capitalism is a perfect system, it's just that brown, yella, and black people and other similiarly melanin enriched and hued people are simply lacking in the levels of advanced Hyperborean consciousness to work such a perfect system

      spoiler

      this is sarcastic btw

        • LoudMuffin [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I was kind of joking

          I'm not white so I kind of like the idea of literally existing to subvert America, like I'm part of invading force spreading CRT, cultural Marxism and then just destroying infrastructure, literacy, the environment, everything. Just absolutely motherfucking everything with my mere presence, being part of a caravan crossing over the border like a barbarian horde

          I am a barbarian, I am a horde, I am 100% that

          like literally the moment I was born I was like "Burn Loot Murder, iphone Venezuela" and just set to work smashing the white race

          it's a funny concept to me, like a reverse Reconquista. A lot of fascist rhetoric is kind of amusing when you take it 100% literally, like no joke some of them acknowledge white people are intellectually inferior to Jews but they say that the Aryan race is morally superior and as such should inherit the Earth

    • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      (even though the FBI data shows it was mostly mayos).

      source? Not that I doubt you but I'd like to have our very own crime statistics lul

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        https://crime-data-explorer.fr.cloud.gov/pages/explorer/crime/hate-crime

        52% white people for anti-Asian hate crimes. White people account for ~59% of the population in the USA. On average, also, they're probably in more homogeneous (white) communities so you'd expect them to be less likely to commit hate crimes purely because they're around minorities less. There's other discussions to be had over the numbers, too, but the point remains that a lot of the crimes were committed by white people.

        • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          52% white people for anti-Asian hate crimes.

          where are you getting this number from? I checked and it's more like 63%

          126 white, 53 black, 46 unknown.

          • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            I got it from that link... it's possible the numbers weren't refreshing properly from one of my suggestions or something like that.

            63% is way worse, because it means white people are over-represented despite many living in segregated communities.

        • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Yea that makes sense.

          One of the biggest factors left out of this (intentionally) is that Blacks are just around Asians a lot more.

          • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            Exactly, lol. When are the wealthier groups of white Americans going to commit hate crimes? They're never around PoC.

            • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              When are the wealthier groups of white Americans

              you mean white Americans period. A huge amount of poor whites essentially live in segregated rural communities where they also wouldn't interact with Asians.

              whereas most poor POC live in cities

              • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                Yeah, I was deliberately being kind of generous because there are a certain number of white people who do live in somewhat diverse neighborhoods. But, as you say, American desegregation was a joke.

      • RandyLahey [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        from the article "More than half of the offenders were white, and 21% of the offenders were African American."

        this is why the r*dditors are going nuts about black people in the comments because its higher than the national percentage of black people, and its too much work to factor in that crime is mostly done to people in close proximity and (due to some totally mystifying factors probably related to skull shape and nothing else), american cities can be kinda racially-segregated, so that if you corrected for local demographics the racial component would presumably all but disappear

        • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          this is why the r*dditors are going nuts about black people in the comments because its higher than the national percentage of black people

          just reflect their own statistics back at them.

          "if Blacks are 13% and commit 50% of the crime, but only commit 21% of the crime against Asians, that means they're committing less crime against Asians"

    • OfficialBenGarrison [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      :lmayo:s and passing the buck, what's a more iconic duo.

      Black people are like Dinkleberg to these idiots.

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    are redditors the most racist social media demographic of all the mainstream social media sites (so not counting shit like 4chan or whatever)?

    • deadtoddler420 [any]
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      3 years ago

      Honestly at least 4chan knows they're racist. Like most people who post on 4chan I met just think saying slurs is funny. Meanwhile redditors think they're heroic for hating Chinese people.

      • LoudMuffin [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Youtube can be a mixed bag though, there's usually some pushback along with Facebook surprisingly....

        reddit is just pure chauvinism IMO, redditors are largely really dumb sheltered mid twenty somethings, a lot of Youtube and FB comments are from middle aged people who fried their brains with internet but have enough life experience to know differently and kids

      • OfficialBenGarrison [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Democratized media and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

        MAYBE all this would have fared better after a cultural revolution to purge the west of its sadism.

    • RandyLahey [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      i think its a hotly-contested crown, but yeah its not just that they had subs like r/c*ontown etc or still have openly-fash r/pcm, its that theres an environment where "enlightened" self-important people in mainstream "serious" subs can just casually post "actually the real problem is that were not allowed to talk about how much crime black people do" and get tonnes of upvotes and ridiculous awards

    • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      So I'd say that because of how the "hivemind" thing works on reddit, generally the racism and xenophobia is more accepted and common as it's just seen as the right think. Of course there is also definitely subs that go out of their way to be racist/edgy-- so bad that other redditors think it's too racist for them.

      Like even in real life, there are many liberals or even "progressives" that hold some pretty racist views. Whether it's closeted or not, there are definitely people who don't think they hold any problematic views thinking they're anything but racist. There is just some narratives that stick to big groups of people that don't consider themselves holding racist or xenophobic views.

      It's really hard to say if reddit, Facebook or YouTube have more or less racism, I think it's possible to be worst in some areas than others. like outwardly nazi content creators are absolutely going to have vile shit in their comments. But you can also be blind sided by seeing it in areas you wouldn't expect.

    • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      They are only interested in racial justice insofar as it absolves the empire. They fall in love with MLK after shitting out his assassin, and as far as they're concerned the Black Panthers got what was coming. They named the FBI building after Hoover and the airport after Dulles.

      Anybody flying into D.C. to pay off some senator is literally flying into the bananna republic board member who also happened to be in charge of the CIA memorial international airport. And the Liberals newest ally, the FBI, operate out of a building named after the guy who identified the Black Panthers Breakfast Program as the greatest threat to national security.

  • Gonzalo [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    The white citizens of a racial apartheid state being racist? Wow.

    :surprised-pika:

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    15 days ago

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  • OfficialBenGarrison [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    "Hurting Asians because of some weird virus stuff isn't good."

    "Who are you calling a criminal...uhhh it wasn't me! IT WAS THE BLACK PEOPLE!!!11!!!1!"

    Boy who cried wolf, but redpilled.

  • purr [undecided]
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    3 years ago

    stuff like this makes it hella exhausting to be black. like even when other groups are asserting themselves, it often has to be at the expense of black people. bots or no bots, there's a lot of anti blackness in the asian community that makes it hard to discern whose doing the whole "stormfront posing as asian person bot" thing or who is actually an asian person who hates black people. it made it very hard to engage with the stop asian hate stuff earlier this year (although i support i obviously, by engage i mean read the news and thinkpeices) because even if an article/ news report is mature and not anti black or simply nuetral, the comment section is always nuked by bots or by actual anti black asians.

    these articles really had me feeling like i was the worst person in the world as a black person and that black people are inherently violent but i understood the fear, and was genuinely trying to be aware of how my black body interacted with asian people in public, like not getting to close to them/ doing stuff that can make anyone traveling alone in a vulnerable time feel uncomfortable. (obviously im always respectful and always subject myself to hyper awareness that has to do with me being black period and white supremacy). i still wish that there was a way in which i didnt have to yet again control my body and be fearful of some carceral backlash

    Im still happy for the history i learned from this past march (i think reading historcial accounts or watching docs was a good way to educate myself without dealing with anti blackness) and its definitely allowed me to recognize and push against anti asian racism i see. I just wish the whole convo was handled better and i kinda sympathize with black people who were turned off by the anti blackness shown and understand now why there seems to be even more emphasis on how poc solidarity kinda cant exist ---but those black people should also lean into the discomfort (maybe???) and regardless should already be making an effort to be against anti asian racism because no discomfort excuses bigotry

    anyway i understand that i am centering myself in this convo and recognize this might not be the place