"Psychological projection is the process of misinterpreting what is "inside" as coming from "outside". - - In its malignant forms, it is a defense mechanism in which the ego defends itself against disowned and highly negative parts of the self by denying their existence in themselves and attributing them to others, breeding misunderstanding and causing untold interpersonal damage."
Soviet Movies, left to right:
Guest from the Future (Гостья из Будущего), Per Aspera ad Astra (Сквозь Тернии к Звездам)
Moscow-Cassiopeia (Москва-Кассиопея), Guest From the Future (again)
Kin-Dza-Dza (Кин-дза-дза), The Witches Cave (Подземелье Ведьм)
Moscow-Cassiopeia (again), This Merry Planet (Эта весёлая планета)
I don't know this one, She Fell from clouds (Spadla z oblakov)
The Soviet movies seem to be a fair bit older than the American ones on the right. Old Hollywood sci-fi movies also had aliens that were just dudes in silly outfits.
Did the Soviets ever do giant big budget schlocky genre flicks? Where's the Soviet Commando, Indiana Jones, Aliens or Ghostbusters
Did the Soviets ever do giant big budget schlocky genre flicks? Where’s the Soviet Commando, Indiana Jones, Aliens or Ghostbusters
To my knowledge, they didn't usually make movies like that. Even their adventure films tend to be sort of comic and meditative. White Sun of the Desert, a Soviet version of American Westerns, is an adventure film set in Turkmenistan during the Revolution, but its gunfights and action scenes aren't exactly exciting (though it is a good movie, and considered a beloved classic). One Soviet film that had a huge budget and enormous battle and action scenes, was Sergei Bondcharuk's 8-hour adaptation of War and Peace.
Both of those predate the post-Jaws, Alien and Star Wars blockbuster era though, and I wonder if it influenced their films at all.
Both of those predate the post-Jaws, Alien and Star Wars blockbuster era though
I mean, the Soviet Union collapsed in the late-80s / early-90s. Hollyweird was still picking up steam back then.
The remake from 2000 something with that dude from ocean's 11?
Not really schlocky, but they did have some big budget stuff:
- Liberation is a series of WW2 films with some pretty big battles and lots of actual tanks. They start with Kursk, and then cover Bagration and eventually the battle of Berlin. Apparently they wanted to film the Kursk one on the actual battlefield, but gave up because of all the unexploded ordnance that was still lying around.
- Waterloo and War and Peace by Bondarchuk both had an entire division's worth of actual Soviet soldiers as extras in order to reenact the battles, so you get shots like this and this
And there's probably some others, these are just the ones I know of.
That they never produced a blockbuster version of Master and Margaritta is the greatest indictment of the Soviet system imaginable.
That's why the alien costumes suck and are just people with shit on their forehead.
are you telling me romulan fringes aren't the best character design ever
I mean, I get what you're saying, but the real takeaway here seems to be that US filmmakers had access to better creature effects than Soviet filmmakers.
I don't think that's necessarily true, the soviets weren't that far behind on special effects technology. Especially in the practical realm. There was just a divide between what kind of media was consumed in America and the USSR.
Most of the extra terrestrial body horror stuff of that era was absolutely meant to be a critique of America though.
I get what this is getting at, but I feel like it doesn't help that on average the movies/series on the right are likely better/more entertaining films (Predator and The Thing alone even).
"I've never seen the other movies but I bet they are crap."
Peak chauvinism.
A fairly big part of Western UFO mythology holds that they're enlightened peaceful beings that are trying to save humanity from our evil ways though
And the way do to that is to abduct lonely weirdos and having sex with them, apparently
Pretty sure that's all The Thing. There are plenty of non-scary aliens in Western cinema.
But this is propaganda, so fuck nuance.
That's just not at all true. They're all different movies. I've seen most of em
USA, left to right, top to bottom:
Predator, Slither, Alien: Covenant, Xtro (not a movie from USA but whatever), The Thing (1982), The Blob (1988), The Faculty, The Thing (1982), Alien Resurrection, The Thing (1982).
Three are from the same movie.
Yeah, there's a few I'm curious about as well. I can see The Thing, Predator and Alien Resurrection
can you name them all? I can recognize the obvious ones (the Thang, Pred-Ator) but the others I do not know
Not all, there's a Xenomorph so Alien, From Beyond, Close Encounter of the 3rd kind. One is a Cronenberg movie that I can't recall
I get the point, but also you could probably make a list with similar looking aliens from US films. Taking the most benign aliens from Soviet cinema and comparing them with mostly just villain monster aliens from western cinema is not a contrast.
Imagine this but its Soviet Aliens against Star Wars / Star Trek aliens, and the analogy doesn't work at all.
Nevermind movies like ET or TV Shows like Family Guy.
The Faculty which is a 90s teen post-Scream retelling of Invasion Of The Body Snatchers, essentially. I found it so-so.
Alaskaball do you still have this image? I want to use it for something but older images are broken sitewide right now.
Thanks comrade!
Hope these old image threads can get fixed and aren't fucked forever. I refer to them via the search function often.
