In the current material conditions we're in (everything is the same, we're still in hellworld, but the drug laws are the ideal for these conditions)?
In a social democratic state?
In a socialist state?
In FALGSC?
Would the policies actually change at all in any of these?
did a stint in solitary last year when a guard caught me and my celly playing tic tac toe
When I was sober I used to hang around gamestops just to catch a whiff of that new opened game smell. Please, just a taste!
Says @MeltyBloodPlayer . Maybe if you played a real fighting game like Smash Bros you might change your mind
Sigma grindset playing on box. You're so based and you don't want more g*mers in society? I wish we could replace every single troop and every single cop with another one of you
In this house the only real fighting game is Godzilla: Destroy All Monsters Melee
full legalisation, and state production of them.
availability of recreational drugs could be limited via scripts or referral, or not & just flag the patient to get questioned at their next doctor appointment or something
drugs really aren't a big deal when you control supply and have free health care. <---if these for some reason can't be done just decriminalise
drugs really aren’t a big deal when you control supply and have free health care
I really wish more people would understand this.
Krokodil is my favorite example of a drug that is literally only so dangerous because it's illegal. It has this reputation as a ridiculously toxic chemical that will dissolve the flesh right off your bones. But what people don't realize is that in reality Krokodil (also known as Desomorphine) is just as physically benign as common prescription opioids like Vicodin. The whole flesh melting thing came as a direct result of people searching for a cheap alternative to illegal black market Heroin.
Eventually someone figured out you could convert Codeine to Desomorphine in a bathtub using common household chemicals. So in countries with OTC Codeine people did just that. But this whole process is about as hygienic as you'd expect and so people ended up injecting all sorts of unreacted reagents and other pollutants into their veins along with the Krokodil. Cue the horror stories of people who had their legs fall off after injecting the stuff.
Things like this are why it is supremely important to maintain a legal supply of addictive drugs for those who suffer from addiction. In the end it is vastly preferable that people use clean, well labeled, pharmaceutical grade opiates rather than get desperate enough to try literally anything that might work.
This, clean drugs with reliable and consistent strength and dosage would almost totally eradicate drug deaths. There would still be some but it would handle the vast majority
I mean seriously. I can think of several people who would be sober if they weren't constantly ground down by work or a lack of health care.
How much of a supply of drugs would there be, to prevent the risk of running out or rationing too little, and then people just trying to make impure, cheap versions of drugs?
We don't really have a problem with maintaining a large enough supply of legal prescription drugs, so if we legalized all drugs in this way it should work mostly the same.
We often think of hard drugs as extremely expensive, but it's important to remember that is only the case because they are illegal. If Heroin were legal, it could probably be produced efficiently at scale for just a few cents per gram.
Then so long as the pure stuff is freely available no one is going to risk using stepped on mystery powders that are probably loaded with fentanyl.
I don't think there is a one size fits all socialist policy on drugs. The British empire used the distribution of drugs as a weapon of oppression and colonization against China and as such socialism there entailed strict drug laws to ensure such a thing could never happen again. I don't necessarily agree such strict laws are still necessary, but I don't live in China so my opinion on that is irrelevant.
I can however talk about drug policies in the imperial core where the situation is reversed relative to China. Here strict drug laws are used to oppress and enslave racial minorities, and so I think any sort of progress here must involve complete decriminalization at the bare minimum. No one should be in prison for drug use.
Going beyond the bare minimum, I think full legalization is necessary as a strong harm reduction policy. That said, no one should be allowed to profit of off the legalization of addictive substances. Distribution of hard drugs should be handled by a government program.
One of the biggest reasons harder drugs are so dangerous is because criminalization has created a black market where regulation does not exist and you have no legal recourse if your dealer poisons you. This is why we need to ensure a clean supply of these drugs exists and is freely available to those who can demonstrate a history of prior use. Doing this would drastically cut down on overdoses and organized crime.
I support whatever policy has the most positives and fewest negatives. Vote Quimby!
I want to have Fun Pharmacies where you can go in, get a basic check up and consult from a doctor, then buy whatever you want in a safe, packaged, tested form. Measured lab tested doses,
it already happens today lol, the usps is the country’s largest distributor of drugs
most of the fent in the US is imported from China using their mail services, idk what you are talking about
People already self dose heroin at home. It being illegal has done nothing to stop that from happening. The only thing it being illegal has resulted in is a lack of regulation causing it to be much more dangerous than it needs to be.
Current conditions: legalized, heavily regulated production, addictive drugs require a prescription, hard drugs require the seller to give you a little speech on safe use every time you purchase them
Social democracy: same, but a little more lax, because if you fuck yourself up there's free medicine. The speech is getting shorter because there's routine PSAs
Some sort of ancom thing: some people organized a nicely regulated drug production, education, and distribution system, which you're free to use. You can find worse-regulated drugs if you go out of your way, but everyone will chew you out for doing it, especially your doctor. You might have to move to a specialized community if you really want to be contrarian about the common drug policy
FALGSC: you can set whatever limits you want for yourself and they will be enforced. You have to spend at least one week a year sober though, so people who wirehead themselves have a chance to revise that decision
Legalize weed, LSD, and MDMA, to be exclusively sold by a state enterprise.
Confiscate illegal drugs, help people WHO use them get rid of their addiction, punish illegal drug business with the standard punishment for illegal business.
Pump the confiscated drugs into terminally ill people, let them have good time as they go.
Pump the confiscated drugs into terminally ill people, let them have good time as they go.
Here grandma, have some Krokodil
Confiscate illegal drugs
Please don't. This could literally get people killed as certain drugs can have lethal withdrawals.
You could use the seized drugs as part of a detox program. No one should be addicted to drugs that have lethal withdrawals, and if they get that down bad that we're taking their stash, they need some kind of treatment.
Ultimately addiction is a mental health condition and treatment should stay between you and your doctor. The state shouldn't be dictating how you must treat your addiction anymore than it should be dictating how you must treat your depression.
Country with no public heatlhcare: Decriminalize. I don't think legalisation would work, prescription opioids haven't exactly gone well.
Country with public healthcare, but that's being undermined by capital/reactionaries: Decriminalize + some strictly regulated state production of particular drugs that are low risk or can be used to minimise harm (cannabis, meth & opiate alternatives that are better than methadone maybe?)
Country with strong public healthcare: Legalisation, state production, have to have a script, good addiction policy/treatment, absolutely no profit incentives anywhere.
I don't really know tbh, decriminalization is obvious but legalising seems to come down to specific policy and regulation, which is context dependent. Giving heroin to everyone that requests it seems like a bad idea, but at the same time the MDMA quality sucks here and I want a solid connect to have a day off from the doomerism once in a while.
Giving heroin to everyone that requests it seems like a bad idea
I kind of agree with this. We don't need to be giving Heroin out to people who've literally never done opiates before, the point is to reduce addiction. If they want to try opiates they can do Kratom.
Legalization and distribution should be enacted as an extension to Methadone programs but without all of the ridiculous rules that only exist to ensure not many people can get the treatment. Rules like needing to go in every single day to take your dose and not being allowed to smoke weed. Shit like that forces people back onto street drugs.
The whole program should be much more lax and should include an option to receive other commonly used opiates like heroin, morphine, and oxycodone. People who can demonstrate a history of opiate addiction should be allowed to get these as a prescription for harm reduction purposes.
Much safer than the alternative of people stealing to fund a habit of stepped on drugs laced with who knows what.
