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    • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      poverty increased from 1.1 billion in 1981 to about 1.3 billion in 1999

      Bet most of increase was in Eastern Europe.

      • Gosplan14 [any]
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        3 years ago

        There's only about 100.000.000 people in the entirety of the former Eastern bloc and poverty didn't rise to 100%. The percentage remained probably constant or slightly falling, but due to high birth rates, the absolute number grew.

        Of course, with technology accelerating in progress a lot between 1980 and 2015-ish, it's no surprise that the neolibs' boasts of "we are eliminating poverty" has a small element of truth to it, especially as countries of the third world buy western low quality or used goods. Though even if we somewow had 0 poverty, universal healthcare (I'm looking at you yankkks), trains everywhere and net 0 emissions, we still need to fight capitalism and replace it with a system that's both democratically controlled, won't shit itself every few years and isn't driven by the laws of profit

          • Gosplan14 [any]
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            3 years ago

            Ah, you're right. I often make the mistake of referring to the Eastern bloc as the Warsaw Pact countries sans USSR, with the extended allies defined as the COMECON, while I have no name for the pro-soviet countries that weren't member states of either.

    • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      inb4 WaPo says something along the lines of "having poverty is actually civilized" or some shit

  • Mike_Penis [any]
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    3 years ago

    china has been civilized for longer than most of the world

  • Torenico [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Ah yes, China, famous for not being civilized. Like motherfuckers have been doing CIVILIZATION for centuries, millennia!

    And the Russians? they never heard of the Kievan Rus, for example? older than whatever the FUCK the UNITED STATES and GREAT BRITAIN are.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      nurses an unassuageable grudge about the way the Cold War ended

      At least his country lost. What the fuck is the west's excuse?

      • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Seriously, all throughout the 90's damn near every single action movie had Russian bad guys but apparently they're the ones holding a grudge.

    • Yllych [any]
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      3 years ago

      Sending your militaries and navies to patrol formerly subjugated imperial holdings? You are a normal and civilised nation!

    • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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      3 years ago

      normal nation

      I suppose a "normal" nation is one that is willing to roll over for American interests like a good little resource colony

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    civilized

    Wow, the west really thinks of itself as the Roman empire doesn't it? Just mask off fascism and sinophobia.