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  • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Uh no Israelis need to shut the fuck up and get in the sea. Complete and total irredeemable Nazi society. Gonna ask slaves to reconcile with their slaveowners next?

    • cawsby [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Israel cannot continue to exist without ever increasing levels of violence against Palestinians.

      Forgiving what Israel has done is never an option, but the young burgeoning demographics of Palestine should be the majority and in control of the entire area. That is the only single state solution that respects the sovereignty of the people there.

      • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Do you think the Nazi society that views Palestinians as subhumans is going to tolerate their control? Absolutely delusional. They are Nazis and they will turn Palestine into glass before they tolerate Palestinians having control.

        • cawsby [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Right now you are absolutely right, but long term Israel is stuck in the same place that South Africa was.

          I'd like to hope that like South Africa the colonizers relent and give control back to the people they usurped it from peacefully.

          • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Uh things are not going well in South Africa. The white settlers are reacting violently to the minor attempts at equality being imposed.

          • Three_Magpies [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            S. Africa Wealth Gap Unchanged Since Apartheid, Group Says:

            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-04/apartheid-legacy-maintains-south-african-wealth-gap-group-says

            I don't know a great deal about South Africa, but everything I've heard makes it sound like a deeply stratified country with significant problems with racism. I don't think that this should be the model for de-colonialization.

        • winterchillie [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah, exactly, the "Israeli" society is deeply, mask off reactionary colonizers, large percentage of the settlers living in occupied Palestine openly support genocide and apartheid.

        • GoroAkechi [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          So what’s the solution beyond dismantling the Israeli state?

          • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Vietnam kicked all of its colonizers out. It's not up to me, but hopefully Palestinians come up with something similar.

            • GoroAkechi [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              I will respect the choice of the Palestinians. It’s their land, and their choice.

    • geikei [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      This is the correct stance rn but unfortunately unless a big regional or world power intervenes financially and militarily massively on the side of the palestinian movement while the US doesnt on the Israeli side i sadly dont see the possibility of majority of Israeli's getting in the sea. So its not unreasonable to think that even in best case scenarios a large number of Israeli's will probably will have to live in the same state as Palestinians . Probably would have to learn the best lessons from the failures and situation of south africa "post" apartheid

      • TheHero [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Israel has nukes and you would have to be very ignorant of the history of those people to think they wouldnt be willing to plunge the world into nuclear hellfire rather then being driven from israel. Thats the beginning middle and end of the argument.

      • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I don't think Israeli apartheid will end until the US crumbles. I think I'm more optimistic on that timeline than most.