• poppy_apocalypse [he/him, any]
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    3 years ago

    Didn't :fidel-sarcastic: and :chavez-guns: offer doctors and fuel after Katrina? I'm sure the victims were much happier with the National Guard and fucking Brownie

    • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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      3 years ago

      It’s not like the us even needs the help, they could do all kinds of shit if this wasn’t a giant grift masquerading as a country but it’s still fucked up that China could never do anything to help us citizens even if they really wanted or had to bc of how petty and fucked up the us is.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        If China sent aid, and US workers reieved it, all propaganda against China would forever fall flat. It's kinda like how an abusive spouse needs to control who you speak to in case someone manages to help you see and respond to the abuse in a healthy manner.

            • WorthlessLoser [des/pair]
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              3 years ago

              Are they though? I mean, I hope you're right, but never underestimate the depth to which brainworms are capable of burrowing.

              • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                They'll always remember the time that they were given tons of lifesaving medical supplies by China and it'll come up whenever they hear that China is evil and using humanitarian aid to control people.

                They'll be like "wait, no they didn't? They just gave us that stuff".

                • WorthlessLoser [des/pair]
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                  3 years ago

                  And everyone around them, their media, their "elected officials" will be telling them it was nothing but a ploy. I don't know. I'd bet you're right about the majority of them. But others who already had preconceived notions about cHiNa and its role on the world stage will just be aching for some mental gymnast to tell them why their original opinion of China is still the correct take.

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            That's not very materialist of you. If Chinese money helped rebuild an entire town and got people back in homes, those people would absolutely love the Chinese government forever.

            The narrative might be that the shady yellow man is manipulating the masses, but it would fall flat against the material power of actually helping the masses.

            Which is why they'll never allow this to happen. The propaganda only works of you deny the aid.

              • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                Fascist propaganda beats material aid through genocide and violence. They win by preventing improvements to material conditions and blaming the suffering that follows on racial subgroups or the very communists they prevented from providing aid.

                      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                        3 years ago

                        I'm not saying they will, I'm just saying that material aid is the best way to fight against propaganda. No matter what they'll be targeted by the American hegemony, but actually providing aid and helping to rebuild a community will massively increase their support from that community.

                    • CTHlurker [he/him]
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                      3 years ago

                      Didn't Covid kinda disprove this? If the brain-worms are sufficiently advanced, they can absolutely trump material reality. In particular I'm thinking about the hundreds of thousands of people who know someone who died of COVID, and is still refusing to either get vaccinated or wear masks, or do literally anything to prevent themselves from becoming the next corpse on the pile.

                      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                        3 years ago

                        The issue with COVID was lack of response. Because there was no material aid and good active education going on, it allowed more insidious fascist propaganda to slip in.

                        There wasn't a solid safety net, and tons of people lost their jobs.

        • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah, if someone only has a home because China helped them rebuild after a tornado it's gonna be hard to convince them that China is literally Nazi Germany.

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    What are the odds the US accepts that aid? 0? And what’re the odds you’ll see headlines “Biden regime prevents humanitarian aid from reaching needy” like you see about any other county when they do anything short of allowing the CIA to do whatever they want? Also 0?

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    It is good to see how the developed world is willing to help the sick man of the West.

    • culpritus [any]
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      3 years ago

      Opinion pieces

      I'm really getting a kick out of the pure copium brain worms in this one:

      https://web.archive.org/web/20211213124151/https://www.newsweek.com/hedge-fund-honchos-pro-china-remarks-should-compel-anti-ccp-policy-opinion-1658594

      gonna have to make it its own post!

      edit: https://hexbear.net/post/159742