"i've got herd immunity, i've got herd immunity", i continue to insist as a slowly shrink and transform into a mass of COVID-OMEGA-9 virii
I've got HEARD immunity, because I've heard enough about this shit, I'm immune to caring :amerikkka-clap:
So, a virus can get less dangerous over time if mutations fail to keep up with growth in immunity, whether that be from natural immunity or with the help of vaccination.
This is one of the ways pandemics end, and that end result would look like Covid becoming endemic, virtually the whole population being immune to it, and it essentially just becoming like the many other coronaviruses that just spread around seasonally and cause the common cold, or influenza viruses that cause the flu. Death is relatively uncommon to the point where the disease is not a major cause for concern.
I hope that happens, but it seems like a flu that's as contagious as covid19 would cause major disruptions to society every time antibodies wear off or a new variant comes around, even if it's not particularly deadly to most people. The length of time you are infectious before showing symptoms and how contagious it is, and how many animals it can infect... it just seems like a really stupid gamble to expect it to become like the common cold.
I definitely agree and the real solution would have been to just put the entire world on hold for a few months to snuff it out before it became a mass pandemic, but alas, ill-conceived profit-motivated decision making got us to where we are now, and pushing all responsibility and consequences onto the working class in such a way that covid becoming endemic can be profitable for the capitalist class is the main plan in most of the world.
This narrative only holds for developed countries, and not for all diseases. RSV kills tens of thousands a year, and tuberculosis wipes out a million humans a year.
There's a tendency / propensity for becoming less deadly / damaging but it's driven by a random walk and can sometimes do the opposite as it evolves.
Long-term, those people are certainly correct. But how long until they are? Could be a year, could be a decade.
https://youtu.be/467apIoFo7g
video by actual medical doctor explaining this stuff
Thinking back to posts this past summer…
There are still a few hundred people dying per day, but it’s on the decline and with well over half the population immune (a number that’s only heading up) the writing is on the wall. Cases should drop under 10k per day within a couple weeks. Summer temperatures will be good for keeping numbers low, too.
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The doomers have been wrong about everything this year, and they can stay wrong and stay mad. They were wrong about B117 escaping the vaccine, wrong about the delta variant escaping the vaccine, wrong about a spring 2021 wave, and they’ll keep being wrong for internet points until we stop giving the points to them
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Absolutely. Extreme circulation in western countries right now, with a concurrent Delta epidemic in some locations…not that co-infection is a guarantee of anything evolving, but the rapidly growing mix of Delta and Omicron patients in UK hospitals right now isn’t the most encouraging thought to dwell on.
And that’s completely ignoring how Omicron is probably gonna absolutely rip through the global south.
I love how the UK and US are a prime example of what will happen if we let the virus go out of control, yet Australia is still determined to open up.
We've been lucky here in Aus so far, we're in for a nasty wake up call this Xmas, I think.
I've heard lots of people are saying that Australia has gone communist, and that the police are the Stasi. Is this true?
Yes, it's scary! You might think the 10 years of far-right leadership would have made us more sensible, but we've actually become a Chinese communist dictatorship!!!!1! 😱 😱 😱 😱
I’ve heard lots of people are saying that Australia has gone communist, and that the police are the Stasi.
Better pack my bags, looks like I'm moving to Australia.
No don't, it's gone so far right that it's just shitty America now with slightly better healthcare (which keeps getting cut)
800,000 dead and everyone just goes on as normal. psychopathic society.
Queensland: 0 cases for most of the pandemic, beaten more than a dozen delta outbreaks
Also Queensland: well time to let it rip
Remember how everyone freaked out about Florida lifting all restrictions and letting the virus run wild? The party of science is just gonna do that now. They're just the GOP with a song and dance before going "aww shucks" and doing whatever the GOP was going to do.
Wonder where that hospital ship went
When will we get our blue angels flyovers
Omicron variant spreads much faster than any other COVID 19 variant. And has a bit of vaccine escape (two dose phizer vaccine only reduces hospitalisation by 70%, vs like 95% for previous variants).
It seems to be less severe, though not like that will matter much with the rate of spread. Even if severity is halved, if transmission is twice as much hospitalisation and death numbers will be the same.
Going wild and yet people are so done with it it doesn’t even appear to matter in most people’s minds yet(I’m in upstate)
Florida here, and it’s actually super low here! :bloomer:
Because a couple months ago we just let it burn through our entire fucking population and now everyone’s had it :doomer:
Yeah I was figuring we were a couple weeks out from it being bad again. But at least right now I can be a bit less afraid.
It's super low in Mexico too, positivity is at 2% still, considering that the majority of tests are performed in hospitals this seems encouraging. Hope it keeps up until January, christ.
I just did my first training shift at a bar yesterday and at the end of the shift one of the managers looked at his phone and said, "shit, i tested positive for covid." we had our masks off intermittenly to eat and try different cocktails the bar specializes in. so, i probably got covid literally on my first day of this stupid fucking minimum wage job.
He was at work and waiting for COVID test results? Jesus that's incredibly shitty, but on the other hand he probably couldn't afford the time off from work.
yeah, pretty shitty not to disclose that immediately to your employees. what's even shittier is that he's an HR rep and recruiter (he head hunted me for the position) and has probably been travelling around the world like its completely normal. he mentioned being bummed he wasnt gonna get to travel to LA for a wedding this weekend. like jesus fucking christ -- now me and like five of my coworkers, one who is a trans woman, are all gonna get sick. oh also, a crew of mexican subcontractors were doing renovations in the place while we were working (this was a prepping/stocking shift for a soft open), so they were all certainly exposed. we still have to work this weekend.
Not sure what being trans or Mexican has to do with it tbqh
then you may not understand material conditions for those subgroups as well as you think, but i get what youre saying. it was mostly to underline the point that a callous and priveledged HR rep is freely spreading COVID to some of the most marginalized people (certainly in terms of health care access) in his own company
Everyone's going to be exposed to it unless you take drastic measures. Try to not need the hospital for a few weeks. Merry Xmas. :biden-troll:
It would be so fucking funny if Biden got Covid and died
Yes. I've seen multiple comments in :reddit-logo: 's r/coronavirus, both said that they never personally knew covid positives, but now they know multiple
It must be terrifying to live in a densely populated city at the moment
It’s already in Ontario? Oh no… christmas is going to be brutal.
BC is on track to get back over 1000 cases per day potentially even by tomorrow (up from 400's last week) and the number of confirmed omicron cases (just samples that were sequenced) has tripled since tuesday :kkkanada: :covid-cool:
I was talking about BC not Ontario, it’s definitely not at 2500 in BC (yet :shrek-pixel-despair: )
