inside every liberal lives a petty fascist
title edited to remove any insinuation that Sherman committed war crimes during the civil war
sherman did some fucked things (like slaughtering the indigenous) but he did do an order that would have redistributed land to black people but was vetoed by Andrew Johnson and the order rescinded
no mules, though, just 40 acres per family
Tilling disrupts the soil micro biome and is good to avoid if possible
Was going to say that I thought even stuff like the 3 sisters required tilling with the tech at the time, but found this https://lilliehouse.blogspot.com/2017/05/no-till-no-spray-3-sisters-garden-corn.html
I mean, the Confederacy was run by a gang of the most reactionary, racist slavers imagineable so....
Jokes about terror on fascist population are only funny if they are about people far away sweaty
I don't think this rat gives a shit about MTG being fascistic. this is more like some EU neolib threatening to shell the UK over brexit. be as racist as you want just don't threaten my precious union
So , in this analogy UK sells Humans as Property ? and Left the Union because of this ... ?
Where do I sign up for the Chevauchée
we're talking about current day republicans. stop trying to force a square dunk into a round net
Sherman was a genocidal imperialist monster.
He murdered the confederate slavers with regret (Sherman was anti-abolition, pro-slavery and sympathised with the the slavers up until it became a matter of armed rebellion) because they opposed the US empire then spent the next two decades years commanding far larger armies to do far worse with far more glee (he was an ardent political advocate of manifest destiny and wars of extermination) to the native people of the Americas.
Again bad people can do good things while being criticized for the bad they did. To frame his actions against the south as war crimes diminishes the actual war crimes he committed.
Yeah, I see him kind of as a Churchill figure.
He was briefly on the right side for the wrong reasons, and yeah it's good the Nazis lost, but they probably would have lost without him too, and the world would still have been a better place if he (or someone who fulfilled his roles) had never existed.
And what Sherman did in the south was, explicitly the prototype of the strategies he used as the united state's General of the Armies against in the following two decades of genocidal warfare. I feel it's relevant to bring up when people say "Sherman should have gone further" because he did. He went far far further, against people who did far less to deserve it.
The US (inarguably in Sherman's time), was a genocidal empire. Sherman was a member of that genocidal empire's ruling class and commander of its armies. I find it incredibly 😬 when people keep bringing up so positively that one time he helped put down a reactionary rebellion in that empire, even positively characterising that empire for putting down that rebellion (when people talk about "the union" here it's almost always positively), without contextualizing it in any way.
I get the feeling that it stems in part from a place of trying to own the reactionaries, US megachuds can get mad about/concern troll about Sherman so there's an instinct to take the other side, and in part from people desperately trying to find something in the US national mythos they can still relate to, and I can understand both of those, but I think there's still harm in it both from the misinformation standpoint that people who just read social media/look at memes can come away with a dangerously flawed historical misunderstanding of Sherman/Union == cool and based and from the standpoint that it can be extremely alienating both for native american people to see a genocidaire lionised and just people who've been hurt by US imperialism to see purported comrades engaging with/propogating US national mythos, in the same ways that lionising churchill can be harmful and alienating to victims of british imperialism, so although I get no-one here supports the native american genocides or the people who did them and I understand being scolded feels shitty and I've still been pushing back whenever I see it here.
I get the feeling that it stems in part from a place of trying to own the reactionaries
It's this, but there also a shit ton of Cope from American leftists trying to find nuggets of good in the country's history. Nooooo, we were actually good all along except for the feckless or selfish or cruel elite who just unfairly manouvered into positions of power!
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On the contrary, the prejudice of race appears to be stronger in the States which have abolished slavery, than in those where it still exists; and nowhere is it so intolerant as In those States where servitude has never been known
THIS. I am sick of how Sherman has just become a means for nationalists with better optics to joke about how they need an outlet for their fascistic beliefs without getting called out
Same vibes as people who claim we need an American Carnation Revolution. It's like, who the fuck do you think is in the US military. "Progressive" officers = Pete Buttigieg.
Lincoln hanged more natives than he did confederates and I think that accurately sums up the Union's priorities.
The entire point of the Civil War was a struggle over who would get to do "Manifest Destiny" - the slave states or the free ones. People were opposed to slavery in the North in large part because they were nervous about plantation owners stealing all that juicy Native-controlled land.
complain about sherman being a fash to defend Marjory Taylor Green in the process, galaxy brain shit OP foh
What virtue you try to signal currently OP .
Sherman did not do Warcrimes btw my friend , he did simply proper war ... Which appeared as War Crimes for Insane people ..
Sherman was cringe, I wish it was one of the abolitionist or Marxist generals who did it instead.
daddy biden please drone strike these people while I watch and clap like a seal
#NoToCommunism
Just once I'd like to see a liberal who shits on communism, actually have even the tiniest shred of understanding of what it is, or even what fucking capitalism is. :meow-tableflip:
According to Zizek, comunism is when the government does a lot of stuff eficiently
sherman committed war crimes during the civil war, and it was cool
Something else kinda makes me think here. The mere fact that MTG somehow got elected shows that such rhetoric has some base. So I kinda wonder how prevalent is secessionist thought among chuds? Cause the thing is, you dont even need huge numbers, for such a thing to cause immense trouble ... The Qanonfederacy would be absolutely hilarious, if it isnt actually so horrible ...
I kinda wonder how prevalent is secessionist thought among chuds?
Very high. Or maybe not secession per se, but they absolutely love the idea of living in a different country from folks in California and New York. They think if they could have a country without the bluest parts, they'll get everything they ever wanted.
Damn OP you sound pretty :LIB: you should probably go back to posting on :reddit-logo:
