• star_wraith [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I think I get the appeal of Trump to chuds. Can you imagine Trump just passively doing nothing while one or two senators blocked his agenda? I mean, McCain sorta did that and Trump kept on mocking him after he was dead.

    • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah, McCain is basically Persona Non Grata in the GOP. Anyone who talks positively about him is descended up by his rabid fanbase.

      Of course this meant that insufferable libs decided to welcome his rotting corpse into their big tent.

      Even that useless twat Keir Starmer knows that you cannot just beat an enemy, you must destroy them.

      Politics isn't a game. You don't just beat the opposition then go home; it's war. You utterly vanquish your opponent. You have to do politics so much better than them that they literally can not wield power ever again. There's a reason there's no viable working class party in the US because any hint has been annihilated for decades.

      I honestly wonder if the GOP hasn't already won. They got their Supreme Judge monarchy for potentially decades, and the filibuster means that Dems have to get a win that they haven't had since 2008. It's that dire.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      Can you imagine Trump just passively doing nothing while one or two senators blocked his agenda?

      That's exactly what happened to a bunch of his non-neocon agenda items.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/25/three-years-later-evaluating-laws-trump-said-hed-pass-his-first-days/

      Trump was doing Infrastructure Week four years before Biden picked up the torch. He had an education reform bill that failed. He had a health care bill that failed. He had an immigration bill that failed. He had a crime bill that failed. The overwhelming majority of Trump's policies were enacted by way of executive order and largely endure because Biden hasn't rolled them back.

      I mean, McCain sorta did that and Trump kept on mocking him after he was dead.

      Trump's History Tour is flopping, with weak turnout in both Orlando and Dallas. When he was getting round-the-clock full-team Twitter-centric coverage, his swag would echo and boost his appeal. Now he's Page 6 material on a good day.

      You can't build a lasting political legacy on Epic Owns. He's going to fall down the memory hole, and we'll be back to hagiographies of Ronald Reagan and Calvin Coolidge by November.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I will restate for the audience: The President could send Machin a bunch of pictures of Manchin's daughter, taken from the perspective of an orbiting predator drone.

  • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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    3 years ago

    idk if it was a joke tweet or not but that dude from the Jacobin is right the only way the Dems would do anything is if they had 100 seats…. And even then they wouldn’t

  • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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    3 years ago

    waterboarding would be a good start he's just some shitty senator from one of the least important places in the country (no offense to the dope folks of WV my state is also irrelevant). The fact that the most powerful empire in the history of the world (for now) is being hamstrung by two or three useful idiots is so pathetic it has to be intentional. Imagine if a leftist senator (yeah right) held up a vote to use military force on some small country, the president would be calling them a national traitor at the least if they didn't get assassinated. If Biden really gave a shit he'd turn the screws on that guy

    • effervescent [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah it’s just like Parliamentarian thing. There’s always one more excuse to do as little as possible

    • WammaWink2 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      There wouldn't even be a need for torture, for anyone here who still holds principle-based morality in hellworld. Biden could just yell at Manchin and he would fold over like a piece of cardboard.

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    "So what is Biden supposed to do? Water board Manchin until he supports nuking the filibuster?"

    :yes-chad:

    • CTHlurker [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Was about to say, that sounds like a great idea. Biden should just publicly go out and say that.

  • richietozier4 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Just say: “dang, your house looks nice, it sure would be a shame if a predator drone just so happens to malfunction and drop its payload right over it”

  • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    They don't even advocate canvassing or knocking doors just voting.

  • OgdenTO [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Can't they kick him out of the Democrats? Like, I don't care, but his supporters might, and that would at least be something visible.

    • effervescent [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      I am suspending Joe Manchin’s voter registration as a Democrat until we can figure out what’s going on

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    3 years ago

    Or we could nuke Manchin until he supports waterboarding the filibuster.

    Lots of options.