I don't get how libs can tolerate being taken for granted like this. They're not being mature or practical - they're accepting mistreatment by an establishment sworn to serve them.

Trump and his supporters aren't better, but at least he's telling them what they want to hear. He at least made sure to get checks out to people and had his signature stamped on them.

I dunno, at least there's a strategy there. And Biden has had four fucking years and he's done nothing to get people motivated to vote or even register to vote. Not even going into his participation in genocide, it's just a lack of strategy to the point of self-sabotage.

And the entire Democratic party is complicit in all of it. It's like they want to lose, because all I'm hearing are about how bad trump is/was. And it's like, I was fucking there. And after three years, all they can offer is to give him a verbal reprimand and coverage on every major news network, speech, and social media posting.

It's just mind-blowing to think of the wasted time and energy on the part of the US political system.

    • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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      11 months ago

      The conservative portion of that constituency doesn't like their money going to Israel though. Only their reps do.

      • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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        11 months ago

        Conservatives don't apply their anti-tax ideology to military spending, if a policy kills non-white people it automatically has their support

          • RoabeArt [he/him]
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            11 months ago

            Pretty much this. When Trump is in the WH again, his supporters will be clapping like seals when he hands the first blank checks to Israel, Ukraine etc., while the libs will be the ones calling for this spending to stop.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        and given weapons to russia

        Let's not kid ourselves, his foreign policy is not that good

        • LeylaLove [she/her, love/loves]
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          11 months ago

          At most, Trump being a de facto NATO leader would have slowed down aid given to Ukraine, but that's the most I'd expect to see.

          • CTHlurker [he/him]
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            11 months ago

            Nah, Trump being NATO leader would have just shifted the burden more towards Europe than it already was. Making useless grandstanding arguments against Donald Trump was like, every EU leaders favorite action during his presidency.

            • LeylaLove [she/her, love/loves]
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              11 months ago

              This is true. Individuals rarely make massive differences. There's actually a type of rap song that explains this very well. It's describing drug dealing dynamics more, but war profiteering fits the profile. Songs about being a drug dealer (war monger) making big moves and all the money while contributing to the destruction of their community, but also knowing that they are disposable and if they die another person will just replace them. Drug dealing is a desperation thing, so it's a different situation, but I'd definitely compare war mongers to drug dealers in how they're important to the community, yet ultimately damaging more than they help.

              Kissinger is the ultimate example. Kissinger may have been the American death dealer, but in the mind of Americans, he was still important and good because we really could have gotten worse. I never quite feared Kissinger, he was ultimately a profiteer above everything else, as such he was predictable. I fear the guy who idolizes Kissinger and replaces him in the world, without understanding how calculated Kissinger was. Kissinger is pretty much one of the only people in history where you can assume anything that happened because of him was fully intentional. He was pretty much every bad thing you could say about him, but he already knew that shit. Maybe I'm just odd, but I'll always pick a competent sociopath against a completely unhinged idiot. Kissinger was going to fuck up lives and it's unavoidable, but at least he won't fuck up everybody's life. I bet Kissinger's sequel is going to be an emotional war hawk that will fuck up everybody's life on the planet. We're going to see the US declare war on some nation in South America or Mexico soon.

              But anyways, here are the two songs I think of when thinking of this. Sure there are more like this, but these are great songs.

              Ice-T - New Jack Hustler

              Sleep on silk, lie like a politician My Uzi's my best friend, cold as a mortician Lock me up, it's genocidal catastrophe There'll be another one after me, a hustler

              Freddie Gibbs - Thuggin (This is the single version, not the studio recording)

              My uncle last bitch put him on the glass dick Tried to rob a man to feed his habit, he got blasted I live on borrowed time, my expiration date I passed it So lock me up forever, but this shit is everlastin'

      • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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        11 months ago

        Why would he give weapons to Russia? For what possible reason? And why would he invade Palestine, I mean if he wants them gone he would just have to do what Biden is doing, maybe throw a drone at the UAE to get Ismail Haniyeh

      • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        That would be so hype if there was an anti-American president who armed all of America’s enemies. Too bad Trump isn’t that sicko-wistful