I don't get how libs can tolerate being taken for granted like this. They're not being mature or practical - they're accepting mistreatment by an establishment sworn to serve them.
Trump and his supporters aren't better, but at least he's telling them what they want to hear. He at least made sure to get checks out to people and had his signature stamped on them.
I dunno, at least there's a strategy there. And Biden has had four fucking years and he's done nothing to get people motivated to vote or even register to vote. Not even going into his participation in genocide, it's just a lack of strategy to the point of self-sabotage.
And the entire Democratic party is complicit in all of it. It's like they want to lose, because all I'm hearing are about how bad trump is/was. And it's like, I was fucking there. And after three years, all they can offer is to give him a verbal reprimand and coverage on every major news network, speech, and social media posting.
It's just mind-blowing to think of the wasted time and energy on the part of the US political system.
He hasn't been Trump for four years, that's what he's done!Listen, fat, there was a dang cheeto in the dang white house
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The majority of Americans understanding of how politics impacts their lives in fundamentally vibes based. Their perception of material reality will literally warp from "America is doing great" to "America is not doing great" based off of their political color and the political color of the politician in power.
I have had Trump supporters flat out tell me the world was amazing when Trump was president and that now biden is president there are gangs of ISIS-MSG-13 are razing the countryside and America is 100% communist, and vise versa when it's some shitlib.
Like the most direct impact of political actions have had that Americans really have actually materially felt is the actions of the trade war, covid, and the artificial inflation of necessary commodities.
Covid was significant. It was the last time most of us can ever remember getting any useful monetary help from the govt. And Biden stepped in and dismantled it all while his cronies blamed our brief respute from poverty as the root of inflation.
If I was not trans, I would probably see no direct and personal drawbacks to Trump round 2 (though I would have to abandon my compassion to handwave the everything else)
Excuse me? He restored the soul of this country and you should thank him for that.
That's nonsense. If Joe Biden really restored the soul of America in his image, it would now be a land of tattered infrastructure, systemic bigotries, fealty to Wall Street, and the pigheaded denial of geopolitical realities and climate science would be rife.
At least America got a couple social programs out of LBJ. Biden is the warmed over twice-microwaved LBJ that's been rotating next to the other hot dogs in 7/11 for a week.
If Biden had been president in 1967, I imagine that Flower Power photo would have gone down a lot bloodier.
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Liberals will cry and list a thousand things that Biden accomplished that don’t matter. And let’s say they do matter. Who gives a shit? Your fetishized “””democracy””” is about THE PEOPLE. Their perception of your governance matters. It doesn’t matter if objectively you did good things for them. If THEY don’t see it, they won’t support you. It’s literally that easy.
Your job is to not only serve them but to make sure they fucking see the results materially with their eye balls. But instead they’ve opted to get angry and complain about their own voters being upset and how tankies are complaining about Palestine. Get a different fucking job if you’re too lazy to do party propaganda. Stupid fucks.
I think you underestimate the size of the genocide constituency
The conservative portion of that constituency doesn't like their money going to Israel though. Only their reps do.
Conservatives don't apply their anti-tax ideology to military spending, if a policy kills non-white people it automatically has their support
Not from what I've experienced. It's only good when their guys do it.
Pretty much this. When Trump is in the WH again, his supporters will be clapping like seals when he hands the first blank checks to Israel, Ukraine etc., while the libs will be the ones calling for this spending to stop.
and given weapons to russia
Let's not kid ourselves, his foreign policy is not that good
At most, Trump being a de facto NATO leader would have slowed down aid given to Ukraine, but that's the most I'd expect to see.
Nah, Trump being NATO leader would have just shifted the burden more towards Europe than it already was. Making useless grandstanding arguments against Donald Trump was like, every EU leaders favorite action during his presidency.
This is true. Individuals rarely make massive differences. There's actually a type of rap song that explains this very well. It's describing drug dealing dynamics more, but war profiteering fits the profile. Songs about being a drug dealer (war monger) making big moves and all the money while contributing to the destruction of their community, but also knowing that they are disposable and if they die another person will just replace them. Drug dealing is a desperation thing, so it's a different situation, but I'd definitely compare war mongers to drug dealers in how they're important to the community, yet ultimately damaging more than they help.
Kissinger is the ultimate example. Kissinger may have been the American death dealer, but in the mind of Americans, he was still important and good because we really could have gotten worse. I never quite feared Kissinger, he was ultimately a profiteer above everything else, as such he was predictable. I fear the guy who idolizes Kissinger and replaces him in the world, without understanding how calculated Kissinger was. Kissinger is pretty much one of the only people in history where you can assume anything that happened because of him was fully intentional. He was pretty much every bad thing you could say about him, but he already knew that shit. Maybe I'm just odd, but I'll always pick a competent sociopath against a completely unhinged idiot. Kissinger was going to fuck up lives and it's unavoidable, but at least he won't fuck up everybody's life. I bet Kissinger's sequel is going to be an emotional war hawk that will fuck up everybody's life on the planet. We're going to see the US declare war on some nation in South America or Mexico soon.
But anyways, here are the two songs I think of when thinking of this. Sure there are more like this, but these are great songs.
Sleep on silk, lie like a politician My Uzi's my best friend, cold as a mortician Lock me up, it's genocidal catastrophe There'll be another one after me, a hustler
Freddie Gibbs - Thuggin (This is the single version, not the studio recording)
My uncle last bitch put him on the glass dick Tried to rob a man to feed his habit, he got blasted I live on borrowed time, my expiration date I passed it So lock me up forever, but this shit is everlastin'
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It’s not, but if the only two candidates are both genocidal imperialists how can you call the US a democracy? Do you realize this bad cop good cop routine is by design?
Then don't get so worked up about which voters to blame for the superficially "worse" result
Yes exactly, therefore getting mad at voters is falling for the theater instead of rejecting it
can you even experience joy anymore? or is it all reaction memes on the inside?I have no clue what you mean cracker
Laughing at you does bring me joy
Why would he give weapons to Russia? For what possible reason? And why would he invade Palestine, I mean if he wants them gone he would just have to do what Biden is doing, maybe throw a drone at the UAE to get Ismail Haniyeh
normally i think we're too hard on the liberals who wander in from the lemmyverse from time to time but it's really hard to maintain sympathy for them when they straight up admit to just making shit up and still wanting to be taken seriously
You believe in Nazi conspiracy theories but with Jews crossed out and Russians written in, you are indeed a lib
well that's fine, because i don't believe whatever the hell you're pretending like i believe in.
vote for Biden to protect the US rules based order!!!
I am NOT a Liberal
Pick one
God you're pathetic, had your brain melted by MSNBC in 2016 and it somehow keeps getting worse
So you admit the entire comment is just making shit up. At least we agree that far, but it makes me wonder why you would bother writing it. When I say Hillary would have invaded Iran, it's not hyperbole, it was a literal campaign promise from her directly.
- i recognized the handle but couldn't remember exactly why. The crying
Hey aren't you the dude who got butthurt about being called a cracker? Back for more I see?
That would be so hype if there was an anti-American president who armed all of America’s enemies. Too bad Trump isn’t that
He fulfilled his most important promise: that nothing would fundamentally change. Now get out there and
I'll remind you they also didn't do that in 2020 so they're sticking with what worked alreadt
I didn’t know either until I came face to face with an aspiring “organizer” in the DNC network
These people are so fundamentally useless, and I am convinced that they only do what they do so they can feel good about following the rules (designed to prevent anything from changing)
It is really incredible. I would have never guessed in 2020 how far below my expectations the reality would be but it is truly remarkable. Literally as bad or worse than Trump in every measurable way. Just utterly deflating to the point where I feel genuinely bad for people who are still emotionally invested in the presidency. Especially young people, I remember being that naive still and it is a cold hard road to the truth.
Even before his [more recent] tacit support of genocide, Trump set the bar so fucking low and Biden somehow stumbled like he was walking upstairs.
The bar was six feet deep in the grave and Biden still fell through the open manhole cover on the sidewalk around the cemetery
He did make good on his campaign promise, nothing fundamentally changed.
Oh wait yeah it did it got worse.
it got worse
Because nothing changed, which is the plan all along for Beijing Biden! Doing nothing is the same as communism!
[pointing at a hard dick] this is the most important erection of our lives
I’m waiting on that cure for cancer before I can vote for Brandon
Their future deaths from cancer are prevented. They have died immediately from COVID-19. A finger on the monkey's paw curls.
Just like the Bourbons upon their restoration, the restored Democrats learned nothing and forgot nothing. They almost treat their right to votes and government as privileges granted by some secular divinity, more important than any currents of popular opinion.
Now I guess we wait to assess how cyclical their failing is this time around. Will it be different given the world we live in now is not the world as it was in 2017?
Yeah, though the civic religion is either dying right now or transforming to survive.
He brought honor and integrity back to the White House.
they made it the fuck up
for the "Nothing will change!" Candidate!
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