I've strongly suspected it for a while now.

  • karl3422 [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    I don't know it's too much energy to interact with terminally online neoliberals I prefer to interact with terminally online leftists and regular people in real life

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Some of the neoliberal "civility" powermods rule over massive fiefdoms of Reddit, and /r/politics is just one of their domains.

    Say something actually leftist, and they will sometimes send you a personal message with a ban, telling you that their particularly isolated identity is/was threatened by "the soviets" and you are literally worse than nazis.

    I won't name names because I don't play their doxxing game, but one eats so deeply from the trash can that they feel more threatened by leftists as a well-off white male gay man than they do by fascists, which is rich.

  • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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    r/politics did that even back when the old sub was up, I remember it being a zeitgeist to get banned form politics or dogswithjobs etc. and sharing a screencap of your ban message / evidence of shadowbanning

  • RandyLahey [he/him]
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    yeah check out reveddit to see how many of your posts have been shadow deleted (probably more than you think)

    r/politics is by far the worst offender in my experience, most of the others at least have the minimal decency to ban you to your face

    edit: oh yeah and if you were on the old sub upvoting guillotines and shit theres a good chance your upvotes and downvotes dont work either

    • FirstToServe [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      no one's upvotes or downvotes actually work on that site. it goes into a black box and comes out 'fuzzy'

      • RandyLahey [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        nah i know about the fuzzy thing, but a number of us have confirmed that our votes arent counted at all. like it fuzzes above 3 votes i think, but if youve got a fresh comment with no votes and you upvote it and refresh (or look at it outside your account) it will stay at 1 and the vote doesnt register

        normally for the first vote, reddit will keep it fixed at 2 (or 0) without fuzzing until theres more votes, so this is the easiest way to see it happening

      • HelpMeImInHell [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah I can confirm. I have tested it with multiple accounts made from the device I was on when I used to comment in the chapo sub. To this day any accounts linked to this device cannot up or downvote. I've tested it with other people where we just comment on each other's comments and mine never register at all. It's not vote fuzzing. I've even gone into the question subreddits to ask why my account is like that, or even more benignly to ask if reddit even does this or if they have an official stance on it and those posts get... I guess you'd call it "shadow deleted." They don't show as deleted to me, but no one ever sees them. However, I can post and ask other unrelated stuff.

        Other people have mentioned the same. @RandyLahey is totally correct. It pisses me off because the only thing I really use reddit for anymore is to ask for little bits of advice on some topic or about medical conditions and I can't even upvote the people who respond as a minimum "thanks."

        • FirstToServe [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          I know it's overplayed to make orwellian references but holy shit it's frustrating. Watching from the outside of what's so large a forum it could reasonably be called a public utility.

          • HelpMeImInHell [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            It really really is fucking frustrating. A few years ago I felt hopeful that a lot of the reationary shit that was there from the beginning was starting to get challenged, that leftist subs were popping up and there were actual leftist perspectives being discussed in some of the main subs. It was looking like there maybe could be some leftwards groundswell, or at the very least, a reduction in the more openly fash shit. Looking back, I know that was naive, but only because the same thing I was hopeful about was obviously recognized by people with power, because sure enough, all of that shit got cracked down on hard. Hence the loss of the chapo sub. It's so very blatantly steered.

            I was just trying to find an article someone posted here a while back about literal former CIA now playing a major role in the workings of reddit. I'll edit and paste it if I can find it.

    • Grebgreb [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Slightly unrelated but my first interaction with reddit was getting shadowbanned from a trackball sub.

    • sharedburdens [she/her, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Wow, /r/196 is way worse than I thought, everything from anti- landlord stuff, shit talking bill gates, and calling england the garbage island is all removed lol. Shitposting, but only with nsa approval first I guess

    • CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn [any]
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      2 years ago

      Disabled Privacy Badger on this site to make it work. /r/CanadaPolitics mods are apparently butthurt at a lot of my comments.

  • s0ciety [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I got banned from posting there (just posting, I can still browse) because I said we should launch conservatives into the sun lol

  • Hippocrit [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    I’m not sure what their threshold is but I can confirm that yes they do this a lot. You can open another browser incognito and go to the permalink for the parent comment (or the actual comment too I think?) if you need to check if it’s visible to others.

    Pretty sure r/news and maybe some other subs share a shadowban list with that sub but I’m not 100% sure. Maybe I’m just coincidentally shadowbanned in both which is probably a plus for my sanity honestly.

    There was one time a comment of mine didn’t show in a different sub and I messaged the mods asking what was wrong with it, and they allowed it saying that it was automoderated with their spam filter. Maybe getting shadow clapped in one sub means you get filtered in a few; I don’t know how it works.

    In most subs on R*ddit you’re walking on thin ice. I got banned from the Coronavirus sub (for incivility and politics) for telling people arguing China has worse numbers than the US that they were huffing on pure cope. Guess you need to be ultra libcivil if you want left opinions to fly anywhere on that shit site

    • spectre [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Guess you need to be ultra libcivil if you want left opinions to fly anywhere on that shit site

      You can and should tbh. Speaking their language will have some level of rhetorical effect, while going for a dunk only impresses people who already agree with you which should be done here on the_dunk_tank anyway.

      Libs will permit you to be smug af though if you can back up what you're saying, just try not to be crass.

      • Hippocrit [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        You’re right but usually when I low effort anger reply it’s fueled completely by wanting to blow off steam at whatever bullshit I’m reading instead of being productive and working to reach them.

        I used to put more effort into it but it felt like way more effort than impact, so now I’m just trying to phase out my Reddit use more and more. It would be very different if I knew them or felt they were easily reachable, but arguing with Redditors just infuriates me and feels pointless nowadays.

        • spectre [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          just trying to phase out my Reddit use more and more

          This is the best move comrade :)

  • FunnyUsername [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I got banned on my last account after I said the Bolivian coup supporters should be shot

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Which is hilarious, because what is politics except deciding who will be killed and who will do the killing?

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I found a cool hack to get around this; Just get banned from /r/politics