Mocking antivaxxers is not punching down when their decisions and actions are literally murdering people.

Antivaxxers are participating in a systemic genocide of marginalized people, the working class, and the immuno-compromised.

In a perfect world, these ideas wouldn't have spread to begin with. In a still better world than we have right now, we'd have mass re-education programs.

Instead we have a global pandemic made worse by a murder cult.

  • ass [he/him,comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    since covid started i've noticed myself developing anger issues

    if i worked a grocery job where customers regularly flaunted safety rules to own the libs i'm sure i'd do something nuts and get myself fired within a month

    • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      I currently work in a shop and I have to tell you; I'm getting stress grey hairs from this shit. So. Many. People. do not give a fuck or just don't understand the severity of covid.

      I had someone with covid come in yesterday, touching all over the counter and shit, telling me not to "freak out" because she has "done her 7 days" I couldn't even be bothered telling her it's infectious for up to 24 days, I'm just too exhausted by this whole thing to care anymore. At one point I was offering free masks (I had extras) to maskless customers, they won't take them. The sheer selfishness and ignorance of these people is making me lose faith in humanity, I swear.

      I get the feeling that's the point, to overwhelm us into just accepting this is the new normal. The media and our politicians just confuse people by lowering restrictions (If the news says people can go back to work after 7 days now then it must mean I'm not infectious after 7 days, right?) and downplaying the danger. What a fucking mess.

  • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    You'd want to believe they're taking the piss, but they're not... but simultaneously they're quite literally taking the piss

  • crime [she/her, any]
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    3 years ago

    I recently learned that if you take amphetamines, like 10-30% is excreted in your urine in its active, unmetabolized form — life hack if you have a partner with ADHD and are into water sports I guess

      • crime [she/her, any]
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        3 years ago

        Honestly would've thought about trying to isolate it from my piss if I'd known back when I was seriously rationing it after moving states and not being able to find a new psychiatrist for months

      • crime [she/her, any]
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        3 years ago

        Something about doing stimulants and tripping sounds like a nightmare to me lol

  • Lundi [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Get this jab that might or might not have a small possibility of causing myocardities or drink pee and get special worms. Or or, take Ivermectin and fuck your bowels. Very difficult choice.

  • Horsepaste [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Everyone who believes this shit legitimately deserves to die from it.

    This is the end result of white arrogance in the imperial core.

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      :bugs-no: Nobody deserves to die because they got taken in by grifters.

      Also even if they have other reactionary beliefs criticize that and not punch down on misguided people doing self harm because they are alienated by a predatory health care system.

      • Horsepaste [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        misguided people doing self harm because they are alienated by a predatory health care system

        It is not self harm. Please re-evaluate this take. Self harm is tragic, but self-contained. People refusing to participate in public health measures that save the lives of marginalized people, healthcare workers, and the immuno-compromised is social murder.

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          My mom's an antivaxxer I have basically disowned her but I don't think she should die.

          I think she should be bullied and I call her out every time she tries to make contact but I don't wish death on her

          • Horsepaste [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            There we go. I get why you have that perspective then. I hope your mom survives this. My aunt didn't even though she tried to.

            • Nakoichi [they/them]
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              3 years ago

              I had to get my own vaccinations for regular shit after I turned 18. Antivaxx shit predates its modern incarnation and there's a bit more to it than I think a lot of younger people understand. Jenny McCarthy didn't start this shit.

            • kendra [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              How do you reconcile saying "everyone who believes this shit deserves to die" AND "I hope your mom survives this?"

              • FirstToServe [they/them]
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                3 years ago

                There's a dynamic in groups where people try to find their place in them by appraising where the direction of the group is and trying to place yourself out in front. I think that's something pretty common on this board and that this thread is an example.

      • Horsepaste [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        I have had two people I love who were immuno compromised die from antivaxxers who believed shit like this.

        One of them had survived the AIDS epidemic and she had also gotten vaccunated despite the potential risks to her health as someone with a weakened immune system. Even then, she still couldn't fend off covid and the huge rate of antivaxxers in her neighborhood.

        I want these monsters to self-immolate for what they are doing. The leaders perpetuating it and the members of this murder cult.

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          The leaders perpetuating it and the members of this murder cult.

          This is where I take issue with this, there is a difference between a snake oil salesman and their customers.

          • Horsepaste [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            If the customers weren't murdering people by choosing to become walking pathogen diffusers, then yes.

            Example: I feel sadness for anyone choosing homeopathy over actual medical treatments like chemo. That is preventable death and devastating.

            My boyfriend lost a family member this way because the person thought they could combine homeopathy and prayer to cure their cancer. That was a tragedy, but it was self-contained.

            • Nakoichi [they/them]
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              3 years ago

              This is the same phenomenon though, the people that bought into homeopathy also tend to be anti-vaxx

              Trust me I fight with these people on a daily basis because of my job and I feel you, but I don't want them to die. I want the people that taught them their bullshit to die.

              • Horsepaste [they/them]
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                3 years ago

                I want the people that taught them their bullshit to die.

                What do you do when one of them teaches someone desperate and "converts" them? Is that person now on the death list? Most antivaxxers are incessantly trying to spread their beliefs.

                • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                  3 years ago

                  Bully them. Don't engage with them, ostracize them and isolate them. Until we can have actual humane reeducation centers there's no other option.

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          I'm not defending them, I'm just saying people don't deserve to die just for being gullible.

          • Horsepaste [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Most antivaxxers are violent and ideologically committed to their project. Going out in public without a mask right now is violence. Not social distancing right now is violence.

            I work in a grocery store and I have people like this intentionally move around the barrier in place of the register because they find it in insulting and want to virtue signal they're owning the libs.

            • Nakoichi [they/them]
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              3 years ago

              Most antivaxxers are violent and ideologically committed to their project. Going out in public without a mask right now is violence

              I agree but they don't understand this. We are operating from a totally different perspective, theirs is wrong but it's not deserving of a death sentence.

              I also work in a grocery store, when people do shit like that I confront them and I don't mince words.

              Some are just reactionaries some are dumbfuck hippies. All of them are in some way victims of material conditions even the worst ones. Sure if someone got physical I would have no qualms beating the shit out of them but they do not deserve death for being victims of the US propaganda machine unless they're also Nazis or some shit.

              • Horsepaste [they/them]
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                3 years ago

                I do not care they don't understand this in the same way I don't care a nazi, a racist, or a transphobe doesn't understand they are bigotted and evil.

                Antivaxxers have their identity wrapped up in this shit to the point they cannot be educated. I am powerless to do anything to stop them and the government supports their beliefs through inaction.

                I can watch in horror as they insist on spreading this virus and I can cheer when they destroy themselves. The sooner an antivaxxer changes their mind or dies, we all become a little safer.

                There aren't a lot of antivaxxers changing their mind now. The couple I know who have I don't judge anymore. They came around early on, though. The lines are pretty drawn in their minds and that is not something I can change.

                I also work in a grocery store.

                Then I don't understand how or why you have compassion for them. They want to kill us. Is this how you rationalize dealing with them every day without becoming aggressive? I understand it's exhausting, but I can't do that.

                • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                  3 years ago

                  I do get aggressive lol.

                  There's a video circulating right now of me that probably is going to end up on public freakout or something because one of those dipshits recorded me aggressively removing them from my store.

                  I will fucking fight these people, I still do not believe they deserve death

                  Look I get it I feel much the same way but I take issue with saying they deserve death.

                  Unless they're also fascists they do not deserve death.

            • Nakoichi [they/them]
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              3 years ago

              Of course they are but we're straying from the point here. Not all of these people deserve death. That's not materialist and borderline reactionary itself.

                • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                  3 years ago

                  That's not what the OP said though and that's what I took issue with and they're still defending that position.

  • karl3422 [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    there is no space for satire here someone will see this and do it without question. They will also look down on people for not having critical thinking skills

  • GoroAkechi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    55 likes and 65 (now 66) comments, I’m sure everyone here is being polite in their discussions