:le-pol-face: wasn't offended in the slightest about diversity, though.

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    As someone who grew up as a girl playing games with male leads and having no trouble relating to them, I have to laugh that these babies can't handle a single game with a female lead that isn't pure horny-bait.

    Like holy shit bro, can you imagine how boring it would be for developers if the only main character they were allowed to make was a 38-58-year-old gruff white guy?

    No more wacky cartoon plumbers, no more purple dragons, no imagination. No more character designers innovating. Just a tough white guy doing a US army commercial. Boring.

    • kristina [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      im a trans woman and hate playing games with male leads since i was a kid lmao. so i can understand a degree of the angst. also dislike it when every woman in a game is a extremely horny bimbo. i mean, its relatable content as a bimbo myself, but still pretty annoying how every character looks the same and the only distinguishing features are haircut and outfit

      id make exceptions for games that have female characters you play but also male characters. or monsterish characters and nonhuman/cartoony characters. just didnt like the prospect of being forced into some gruff old army guy's shoes

      however the fact is women as a sole lead is incredibly rare. from my childhood i could count those games all on one hand. so the dudebros are just going stir crazy over the smallest slights

      • Kanna [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        however the fact is women as a sole lead is incredibly rare. from my childhood i could count those games all on one hand. so the dudebros are just going stir crazy over the smallest slights

        Pretty much. Though it's not as bad as it once was, most that have a single protagonist have a male protagonist. It's especially bad in JRPGs. Women/fems getting even the occasional lead character to relate to is really just too much for these losers

        • kristina [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          yeah. there was a reason i was addicted to pokemon as a kid. super non-sexualized and the gender choice really didnt matter at all. and the pokemans were cute

            • kristina [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              honestly lowkey think it was cause Satoshi Tajiri was just channeling his childhood memories and instincts into a game. and kids are surprisingly leftist just from the get-go if you dont constantly prompt them. asking why in the most annoying fashion possible is a leftist past time after all

              • Vncredleader
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                3 years ago

                Just wanna grill but instead its just wanna catch insects but nature keeps being destroyed around him.

            • Vncredleader
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              3 years ago

              It does have a move literally named liquidation.

      • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        I know right? They have like a billion games with a stoic white dude to choose yet they lose their shit over a handful of woman leads.

        • kristina [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          it really does feel like their sense of gender identity is more distraught than mine and im really distraught over the fact i have a dick

      • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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        3 years ago

        This comment reminded me of a YouTuber that does drawing tuts and used to work in the games industry. He has videos for drawing male and female forms and the make video is filled with this wide range of body types, broad shouldered barrel chested, slandered, squat, what have you

        And the female video is 5 different women that look exactly like you think except one or two have slightly bigger thighs lol

  • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    "Unrealistically diverse"

    It's a fucking game where literally all biomatter was consumed by robots leaving the earth sterile, and an automated AI had to print out and gestate new humans along with all other organic life on earth.

    This is like the scifi equivalent of morons saying its "unrealistic" that black people exist in a fantasy series like Game of Thrones.|

    It's just racism because they dont want to see or think about black and brown people.

    • QuillcrestFalconer [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      It's worse. Literally in the first game when you're going through the different subfunctions of Gaia, the guy in charge of the one that will produce and gestate humans says its very important to preserve genetic diversity

      • jack [he/him, comrade/them]M
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        3 years ago

        The real problem is believing a :melon-musk: type would care about racial diversity and not try to reconstruct the new world all white

        • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          He didn't make the program tbf, that was all Elizabet Sobeck.

          In fact Ted Faro was a massive egomaniac who deleted the entire cultural knowledge of humanity (Subroutine Apollo) to "free" humanity from its previous mistakes and believed he was better suited to lead humanity.

          And its gets even more fucking coconuts in the second game with Ted Faro

          spoiler

          Sealing himself in a secret Egyptian pharaoh esque bunker underneath the ruins of San Francisco where he ruled over his servants terrorizing them with forced "off switches" in their skulls in order to use them for medical experimentation so he could achieve immortality which ended up horribly wrong and becoming an immortal blob of human flesh in constant pain, feeding off the power produced by the geothermal plant in the bottom of his bunker.

  • VHS [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Gynocentric

    I don't know how they say this with a straight face looking at the history of game protagonists

      • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Pretty much the entire PS3/360 era was "burly, generic, angry white dudes"

        Could wallpaper the entire Sistine Chapel with all the burly white dudes from that generation alone

    • VernetheJules [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      gynocentric

      Iirc the theory that the earth revolves around a vagina was disproven like centuries ago, no idea why they're so mad

      • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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        3 years ago

        Galleleo, the first real gamer, was literally burned at the stake for speaking out against gynocentrism 😔

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Games that praise Geraldo star a nonpolitical character.

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      the G*mer gulag will have a rest area where they can look at a pic of a very offensive hwhite cishet dude for 5 minutes a day to refresh themselves between lectures (spoiler the dude is Lenin lol).

  • Kanna [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Male gamers shut the fuck up challenge

  • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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    3 years ago

    "gynocentric"

    Ok cool please face the wall.

    We should start referring to all media with a male protagonist as phallocentric

    (not really because that's terf shit but it would probably piss of the :gamer-gulag: )

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      phallocentric

      I believe "androcentric" would be the appropriate term, and doesn't require that the men have a penis.

      • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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        3 years ago

        I guess that's already what we are doing when we say all politics is sexual pathology lol. And this post is just further evidence.

    • KulakstomyBag [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      We should start referring to all media with a male protagonist as phallocentric

      unironically yes

  • The_Champsky [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Inoffensive

    Gets offended when "offensive" races and people are put in, demanding to NOT be challenged on their worldviews.

    These idiots have gotten a little too comfortable since gamergate, and it's high time someone reminded those cousinfuckers to get off their high horse.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    i cant believe aloy doesnt have a 2 inch waist wanna see the CURVATURE IN HER SPINE, i absolutely HAVE to see the cylindrical structure of her VERTEBRAE! it is the only thing that makes a woman a woman and a man a cummer

    also why would anyone play this its on playstation. i love playing games with female leads but theyre ALWAYS on fucking playstation exclusive. it feels like im expected to own a beefy computer, an xbox, a playstation, a vr set, a billion peripherals, and THEN i have to shell out 60 dollars per game and then buy their 30-40 dollar expansions. how absurd

    pirates and emulators take my energy

  • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    From the few minutes of streams I've checked out it looked like such a faithful and well-made continuation of the first part - and the graphics are pretty nuts too. Like, what more do you want - does it need an ingame strip club for these people to be happy, I don't get it

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      They probably want a grizzled middle aged man to drag a weapon around while collecting sex conquest cards.

      • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        And over here I am, just wanting to play the damn game. Had so much fun with the first part but it'll probably take years for a port and I'll be needing an new GPU too :angery:

      • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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        3 years ago

        Grizzled middle aged man or sexed up 20 year old woman with unnecessarily revealing clothing a la nier automata. The only acceptable protagonist choices

  • BoxedFenders [any, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    I'm out of the loop on new games, but what is the g*mer outrage here? Are they really up in arms about diversity in a game with a WHITE female lead? Are there really so few games with female protagonists still that this is still an issue?

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      There's a ton of POC secondary characters they could be mad about. But, it literally takes place in America 1000 years in the future, so it's not a shock they're there. I guess it's a shock to see non-white people in Colorado, but the sequel is in California anyway.

      Also I think some of these guys are mad that "how could a woman with their lower muscle mass and bone density take down a titanium plated robot dinosaur" (as if a man could).

      • BoxedFenders [any, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        I'm looking at the graphics now and it is utterly gorgeous. I like the premise too, and making it a WASP fantasy world would sterilize its richness.

        • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          It's also essentially a global warming allegory, it would hurt the message unless you had a diverse cast and a variety of cultures present. Like it takes place in a small area, but these are supposed to represent all of the people in the world affected by corporate greed (capitalism, but the gamedevs are probably libs and probably would add some additional descriptor like crony or whatever).

        • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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          3 years ago

          I think the previous game lucked out bc it dropped around the time botw came out and there was discourse then that the next Zelda game should be centered on playing Zelda and that probably got the Gamers attention

          But it’s really good and was pretty much the best distillation of the Ubisoft style open world game up to that point imo. Little things like making the towers interactive tall dinos you had to climb that had at least a bit of a skill curve instead of just climbing the 27th landmark tower.

          It had some goofy story things tho, the bit in the beginning when they tutorialize seeing the dinobots walking path and you’re just kind of sneaking through the grass but the companion character is steadily losing his shit like “what the FRICK?! HOW are you DOING this alloy!!” Like it’s some crazy achievement comes to mind lol

          Ima wait til it drops on pc tho bc my ps4 dies constantly and I ain’t buying no console for a single game lol

          • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Imo the best part of the first game is that it didn't feel like it was just wasting your time with pointless stuff. There was a relatively small collection of side quests, the optional dungeons were intricate and felt meaningful, the amount of collectibles was reasonably low, and there wasn't an overwhelming amount of skills or gear choices. Like it's just nice the gear was a clear direct upgrade path, it wasn't a full rpg and it knew that it didn't need you to spend time min-maxing.

            Umm, the design choices for gear and skills differ in the second one, it's still not ridiculous. The gear for the most part is still designed around the same philosophy of each piece being a tool with a really specific purpose, but there's some added complexity with skill points and different bow types using similar arrow types.

      • Juiceyb [any]
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        3 years ago

        Me, a poc in Colorado :side-eye-2:

        • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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          3 years ago

          Tell that to the hoard of people angrily photoshopping the main character to look like a model.

      • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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        3 years ago

        If they had given the player the ability to swing the camera down for panty shots it’d be getting 10/10s everywhere lol

  • mr_world [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I hate when they don't accurately reflect the demographics a far future where humans have returned to a hunter/gatherer lifestyle after the singularity took over the world with robot animals and caused society to completely collapse.

  • COMMENT [she/her]A
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    3 years ago

    Can you edit out the le pol face emoji?

    Also, g*mers bad

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      :melon-musk: had exactly that tantrum. He's basically their king.