https://twitter.com/Uinp_gov_ua/status/1503439897025204224
We are farmers. All our songs are honest- we sing what we feel. We celebrate the hosts in our carols and Christmas songs, unlike nomads-russian
:what-the-hell:
edit: Though I guess this is what you're left with when all of your best military heroes are myths with a longevity of two days. Maybe Christmas patriotism will win the war.
ah, the classic "Russians are actually Mongols" argument
also, in this fantasy scenario, how the hell did the Ukrainians avoid mixing? A bunch of modern Ukraine was also conquered by the Mongols, and even before that, the Pontic-Caspian steppe has lended itself very well to various other steppe peoples, like the Alans, Bulgars, Khazars, Pechenegs, Cumans, Kipchaks... If you're so mad about the steppe influence, might as well hand eastern and southern Ukraine over to the Russians, that land clearly shouldn't be in pure and unbesmirched Ukraine.
The cool thing about right wing nationalism is the fact that it doesn't require you to think. Actually its better if you dont, so prolonged exposure to it will just rot your brain completely.
don't try and trap racists in their internal logic it won't work because they're making it all up as they go along
Same thing as the polish Institute of national remembrance, which used to be called "commission for investigation of crimes against the polish nation".
In PL, it's a state funded nationalist propaganda organization that's infamously right wing and I'm pretty sure approves the school curriculum
I don't know where Polish ethno-nationalism started - after WW1? Earlier, during the second partition? - but it's so goddamn weird. Like old Polish nobility, which the modern Polish chuds I know love to go on about, used to pride themselves on the Commonwealth being a multi-lingual, multi-ethnic state.
Something something the antisemite is aware of the absurdity of their claims
Regular nationalism is no different
Also, in the 1830s, with the November Uprising, pretty contemporaneously to most other European nations.
The funny part is that Ukraine is so culturally similar to Russia that Ukrainian national identity is a relatively new concept, especially compared to countries like Poland that have been struggling for centuries
When I visited Moscow, my Russian friend took me to eat "traditional Russian food" (her words). She took us to a place called Taras Bulba, which markets itself as a Ukrainian restaurant.
I still find it funny that the two cultures are so intertwined that a born and bred muscovite would think that a Ukrainian restaurant is a great representation of Russian food.
Not gonna lie, the food was fucking lit.
We have something very similar in the Balkans, in terms of sharing culture, but things can get more... heated.
Just like culinary wars between Greece, Turkey, and Arabia over whether it's Gyro, Doner kebab, or Shawarma that came first
People in Turkey call greek yogurt "turkish yogurt" and get very upset when you don't do that. breh I'm just trying to eat breakfast.
The real trick to confuse them is to call it "American yogurt"
:whywhywhywhywhy: "gimme mah dang yoplait, turkey man"
:aris-velouchiotis: "the fuck you say to me"
:why-angel: (gobbling sounds that distort into screams)
:what-the-hell: "τι στο διάολο, δεν είμαι καν Τούρκος..."
:stuff: "Joe Biden has confused a Greek man as Turkish and is demanding a morning sacrifice."
And it's just so stupid. If you eat flatbread you're gonna have this dish. If you wanna figure out who made flatbread first you're going so far back in time it doesn't even make sense to talk about these nationalities.
I do enjoy riling turks up about it though. They love to ham up the "we were fierce horse riders" stuff, so one has to wonder when those nomads found the time to grow grain to make flatbread. I've no idea if the argument is a good one, but it's Balkan Tradition to mess with the neighbours.
I fell into this one time accidentally when I mentioned that my Jewish friends had some hamsa hand stuff for jewelry and in their house to a guy in turkey and he got extremely pressed about it. I just kept seeing it everywhere over there and it reminded me of my friends lol
All I'm gonna say is that balkanization over Christmas carols would be the funniest thing
I grew up in a Balkan nation. Most of the languages are literally the fucking same and only split because of nationalism.
It's incredibly stupid and my opinion about that would piss off most people in the Balkans, especially Serbs and Croats lol
We never took the War on Christmas seriously until it was too late.
Lmao, this insane theory is going official. I've heard it before only from 100% Nazis.
The wierdest thing is some wierdass russian nationalists will agree with this.
Extremely weird. You'd think anyone who knows English well enough to translate this would know it's going to anger even western libs.
Doubt. It's gonna tickle the calipers that every lib has inside of them and make them gleefully eager to further otherize the russians
I dunno. There are a lot of Ukraine flag emoji people in the replies going "this is not it, chief."
and they are gonna forget about it in 5 minutes and go back to saying that the claim that ukraine has nazis is nothing but russian propaganda
over time this will probably go somewhere the Chinese were considered white for a long time until the British started selling them opium
I remember some ukrops coming on here a few times trying to post shit like this saying how wonderful the ukranian people are.
The Ukrainian people are wonderful, but it's because most of them aren't nazis. NATO is just heavily funding the nazis and the propaganda to create more...
:sadness-abysmal:
No, it’s a political party in Ukraine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKROP
A derogatory name for Ukrainians originating in 2014. Kind of a wordplay, literally translating as "dill".
