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Jesus Christ we're so fucking dumb. I swear to God you could start a full on revolution if you just managed to give 40% of the population a set of correct statistics.
All of it is stupid but I love the idea of like hundred million people living in NY.
Easily the most baffling one. That's just like...a fact you either know or don't.
Amongst autistic people, the rate of self-reported transgenderism is significantly higher. The typical comparison is that, back when kids used to get being left-handed beaten out of them, autistic people were left-handed at the modern rate (the rate we see when there is no punishment). In other words, it’s possible that there a shitton of allistic eggs out there who have just had the wrong gender metaphorically or literally beaten into them. I’d say probable, but that’s much more about wishful thinking than it is about any data I’m familiar with.
This is really fascinating and I’ve never heard this before, do you know of any reading materials on this subject you could point me towards?
Live in New York City 30%
100 million Americans in one city let's go :sicko-biker:
I don't know what you're talking about, 84% of this country is indeed Muslim, Native American and Jewish and a third does live in New York City working a Union job
Also half of them are gay and bisexual
I know for a fact that my parents claim to be christian on any census info despite not going to church at any point in their life, and not believing in any version of the christian god. According to them, celebrating Christmas is enough to be christian. People like that are going to distort the results.
Are they only reporting people who specify “I am an atheist” or are they including agnostic etc?
Sorry, I meant the “actual results” methodology, not the polling methodology.
Looking at Pew Forums numbers, the actual results are probably just for self-IDed atheists (not including agnostics).
This has to suggest an issue with the methodology right? Maybe people not understanding percentages?
They actually mention it in the article that people tend to choose more reasonable numbers about groups they don't have much interaction with. Or when they do have a lot of interaction with one group, they push that experienced percentage down closer to the middle.
So like, if you're white and maybe 5% of people you interact with normally are black, you'd be more likely to assume that your experience is actually biased because you see more white people, so you pump the number up to try and get closer to the mean that you see as the "default".
There are definitely racist connotations in some cases, but a lot of it is just the psychology of straw polls like this.
The really telling thing is that this means people are guessing pretty wildly based on their experience (which includes propaganda/media consumption). All this survey really tells us that at best most Americans are really uninformed and at worst (which is the case) are incredibly misinformed.
They took the average of everyone's percentages and reported that. Averages of percentages are already a bit weird, but I think they didn't sanitize their data at all. So the 5% or so of survey participants who just answer the worst possible answer (100% of Americans are trans, etc) are pulling all the averages towards the middle.
29% bi is amateur hour get to sucking dick and eating pussy pump those numbers up. Don't spill vital fluids and the volcel police don't need to know.
How are atheists and bisexuals below 5%, there is literally no way. Unless loads of people are saying agnostic?
about 30% of americans have no religion but only a fraction of that call themselves atheists
Most people who aren't religious just identify as "nothing in particular", not necessarily as an "atheist". Bisexuals at 4-5% I can see when you account for older people (from what I remember it's like 20-40% of Gen Z IDs as any kind of not straight vs. single digits for older adults).
Aren’t like 10% of people gay or lesbian? 3% seems real low. Also LMAO people think 1 in 5 people are trans.
Aren’t like 10% of people gay or lesbian?
UCLA says 3.5 self identify as. 10 pct sounds nuts tbqh. https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/how-many-people-lgbt/
10% sounds right to me, for every out and proud gay person there's one in the closet and one in denial. Besides have you seen what the zoomers have been up to
Besides have you seen what the zoomers have been up to
clout chasing?
I'm thinking it could be limited data as far as what people feel safe disclosing and the general muddying of sexuality as a spectrum complicates things further.
Like how typically cisgender women are more likely to identify as bisexual. It's largely societal pressures that make one group identifying a certain way or another.
Also seconding the lol at the delusions in the US.
I really like when this studies included left handedness as a baseline so people kinda get numbers better.
I'm suspicious of these results because this is basically exactly what you'd get if a significant proportion of the respondents were choosing randomly-- their answers would be 50 percent on average, which would cause the overall pool of respondents to "overestimate the size of minority groups and underestimate the size of most majority groups" even if people who didn't choose randomly were pretty close to the right answers
Yeah I think you'd expect random noise to skew the median as well, but less