This is pretty upsetting, having family with type one (genetic, body does not create insulin at all) diabetes. The fact is more than 1 in 4 insulin users will never not need insulin no matter how much weight they lose, and even among t2 diabetics, many will never not have t2 diabetes because it has a huge genetic component as well.

Without insurance their insulin would cost $950 a month.

  • Bulma [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Wait how did he sidestep child prostitution charges or w/e?

    • effervescent [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      He was re-elected by the QAnon crowd during the accusations. Or was that one of the other QAnon Senators who’s a child rapist? It’s hard to keep them straight

    • Alex_Jones [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The FBI and other regulatory forces in the US don't care about sex crimes if it's a rich white dude doing it.

    • raven [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      I'm ready to help him watch his own weight. I know a quick and easy technique to lose about 10 pounds in seconds! :gui-better:

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        /u/Okapi 's message to Angela Davis: I'm coming for you, watch your back, lib.

  • invo_rt [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    The worst part is that the discoverers of insulin for treating diabetes sold the patent for $1 saying that insulin “belongs to the world" until Eli Lily said "NOT IF I CAN HELP IT"

    :youre-awful:

    • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The worst part is that this bill doesn't cap insulin prices. It just subsidizes some copays of some insurance plans.

    • BigLadKarlLiebknecht [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      A long time ago in a shit town far far away, I spent a brief time contracting for Lilly UK. They had just settled a lawsuit out of court in the US and flew some bigwig in to the UK office to do a rally-the-troops meeting, which contained a phrase that stuck with me ever since:

      This $x billion settlement is not to be interpreted as an admission of guilt - it is a quirk of the US legal system

      :gulag:

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      Sadly, pedophilia is practically a rite-of-passage in the modern American system.

      If you're not doing :epstein: shit, you're not trustworthy.

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Sadly, pedophilia is practically a rite-of-passage in the modern American system.

        Not practically, it often is. Ivy league frat boys will document each other committing sex crimes in order to hold each other 'accountable' as they move into their careers. See the David Cameron pig fucking thing or the Kavanaugh confirmation.

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    • Circra [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      It's capitalism. Capitalism will always wind up basically resulting in this sort of thing because it is impossible for it to allocate resources to those who need it the most.

      Sure, you will absolutely get social democrats who will try and shore up society with expansive welfare state programs and hell even some liberals who will try to deal with the most blatantly evil effects of capitalism like this and those efforts might even work for a decade or two. The post war construction of welfare states are an example of this (though obviously there is also the fact that the USSR's existence very much made these more palatable to the ruling classes given the alternative) but sooner or later they'll crumble cos capitalism needs them to crumble.

      Honestly, it won't happen but for argument's sake even if liberal democracies genuinely took the oncoming climate catastrophe seriously and created a vast, overreaching network of infrastructure and legislation to deal with it, it'd last all of 50 years before the ghouls who run the show asset stripped it and we'd be back to square 1.

      • bigboopballs [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        you will absolutely get social democrats who will try and shore up society with expansive welfare state programs

        That only happened because the USSR was there to point to. We're done with that era of capitalism.

        • Circra [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Oh for sure, the presence of the USSR was a huge factor in that as I said and yeah, no way that's coming back.

        • SoyViking [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Modern succdems are either small and insignificant fringe groups with no possible way of realising their policy or they are psychotic power-hungry liberal ghouls with a folkish branding strategy and a red banner somewhere in the corner.

  • Circra [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    The entire debate around insulin prices is the most blatant example of the harm capitalism does in the developed world to be honest. Insulin is so cheap to make in bulk, people will literally die if they don't get it and yet there's still a large number of policy makers who want to let insurance companies and drug manufacturers price gouge people for it. Coupled with the fact that diabetes is if anything more prevalent among people who don't have the money to afford it, it really is a microcosm of how viscious and evil capitalism is.

  • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    This is deeply in line with fiscal conservatism because before the advent of insulin, diabetics (many of them children) "just lost weight" progressively, until death.

  • Wildgrapes [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Even if type 1 didn't exist (which obviously it does and immediately destroys this murderous ghouls argument on it's face) simply losing weight is such a simplification of any type 2 sufferers issue.

    How can people lose weight with no healthy food options that they can afford. No time or energy to devote to losing weight. No medical help in that task without huge social stigma and attacks from doctors.

    Ghouls.

    • raven [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      I don't know how I would figure this out, but considering most t2 diabetics don't use insulin (only 28% is the number I found) and every t1 diabetic does, combined with the fact that t1 diabetics generally use much more insulin, I'm willing to bet most insulin ends up going to t1 diabetics.

      Even that doesn't fucking matter at the end of the day. Your doctor writes you a prescription for insulin, you need insulin.

  • effervescent [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Wanna know what children with Type I looked like before insulin was discovered? Here’s a hint: they were fed less than 400 calories a day and, while it prolonged their lives, they inevitably starved to death.

    So I guess losing weight is technically an option if you don’t mind children starving to death, which we already know he doesn’t. Here’s a before and after picture of an early insulin patient:

    CW literal picture of an emaciated starving child

    https://www.thediabetescouncil.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/before-and-after-insulin.jpg

    • raven [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      They care less if a kid starves slowly to death than if one "freeloader" gets insulin treatment they don't "deserve"

      • Alex_Jones [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        If one person benefits from the government more than absolutely necessary to increase capital, they are marked for death and the program is undone.

  • Torenico [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Why is this pedophile still around? What a miserable country the US is, utterly pathetic.

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Is this ghoul also the guy who let his friends run a sex slavery ring for underage girls using the database of CPS, and who made the weird posts about his adopted son from Cuba?

      • Alex_Jones [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I know he actively tried to throw Sean Hannity under the bus, tried to get a pardon from trump through Roger Stone, and tried to prevent his buddy from getting a pardon too. And that buddy turned on him and went to the FBI.

        It's just too bad the FBI and other institutions weren't designed to go after the wealthy, the white, or the sex criminals.

  • Cowboyitis69 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Americans will gladly die to protect their “free market”