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  • Reversi [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    It's a branching path I wonder about.

    Biden wins: liberals pacified. Nothing changes. Fox News calls Biden a Marxist 24/7. Rightist militias kill more people. Four years later, Republicans have a carefully crafted Trump 2.0 ready to go, and shit gets worse.

    Trump wins: incoherence for another four years as corporations and defense contractors try to maximize their profiteering before time is up. Rightist militias emboldened and kill more people. Left remains agitated but impotent. More unrest. DNC tries to run Cheaty Pete or Kamala in 2024, and lose.

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      DNC tries to run Cheaty Pete or Kamala in 2024, and lose.

      Yes and it should be mentioned that in this scenario, they run to the right of Mitt Romney

        • kilternkafuffle [any]
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          4 years ago

          Romney runs on a platform of Originalism, returning to the ways of the Founding Fathers, revoking the voting rights of the 47% that don't pay enough in taxes.

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        The only silver lining with Trump is he’s a moron that can’t do war

        Don't buy this. He chickened out with Iran, sure, but we tried to overthrow Venezuela's government just a few months later. He was just looking for a softer target.

          • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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            4 years ago

            I don't think we will see any functional difference. Neither Trump nor Biden have the mental capacity to deal with the intricacies of this sort of thing first-hand, and while the attempted coup in Venezuela was a farce, the coup in Bolivia was extremely effective. The only thing that will make a difference is the second/third/fourth level political appointees and staffers that get dragged in with the administration, and both parties have a deep well of genuine monsters to draw from.

            Chalking up the success or failure of foreign intervention to a single person is a mistake. US foreign policy is a vast machine with thousands of pieces working autonomously. These things don't live or die by the initiative of the President. Economic imperatives drive imperialism in spite of what any individual has to say about it. The CIA, industrialists, and financiers don't take no for an answer. They will go full Iran-Contra before they let a senile old man impact their revenue streams.

            The President is just a figurehead for the machine. They have no more influence than Zaphod Beeblebrox.

      • Reversi [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        There's doing war 'normally,' then there's doing war. I'd expect Trump to be encouraged to bomb something by any number of people.

      • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        The great thing about war, is you can use it to justify repressions against your own population...

      • Reversi [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Does anyone on the right even like him? Feels like they just put up with him.

        • FLAMING_AUBURN_LOCKS [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          i think it was matt and brace who were talking about it on an RNC night livestream, but they brought up how uninspiring and unimposing Tom Cotton is and i have to agree. he talks pretty openly about putting down uppity blacks with brute force and people on the far right want to hear that but he’s a pencil necked dweeb and has none of the charisma of trump, even if he’d be better at doing a fascism than trump is

          he’s a theory nerd and he will never seen violent or angry or threatening enough to be elected president by the same demographics that sprung trump into power

        • MarxistHedonism [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Dan Crenshaw seems like their answer to Pete Buttigieg, but did anyone even ask the question?

          Wouldn’t be surprised if the party tries to push him, but the voters reject him and go for like Sean Hannity or something instead.