Pretty much all those Karen compilations are Gen X-aged people, who should fucking know better but clearly don't. Millennials are on watch too, but we don't have enough wealth to be as shitty. Zoomers are going to save us all.

  • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    This is boomer propaganda meant to sow division. It must be 8am in The Villages!

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        As the grandson in this situation, it can actually be a complex problem on occasion. My grandparents laptop wasn't picking up any local networks and it turned out a bugged windows update had installed the incorrect WiFi drivers. So I had to search the internet for the one WiFi driver that actually worked, and then install it without the ancient POS laptop chrashing, which was very frustrating.

        • gayhobbes [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Buy an iPad for them and block them from Twitter, Reddit, and Facebook using parental controls.

          I will send you the money if you need it.

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            Don't worry about it, they use their phones for everything. The computer is used because my stubborn grandpa refuses to retire at over age 80 and keeps taking odd jobs in the industry he used to work in. As much as I tell him it's time to retire, he refuses and keeps finding something else to do, almost out of spite. Appreciate the kindness though

            • gayhobbes [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Well let's make sure we block Facebook on those phones too

              • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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                I wish I could but it's the way they keep in touch with distant family and friends. I did block the s*n news website after I saw that's all they would read. Now they literally watch CNN, BBC, and sky news for 8+ hours a day. So glad fox is not in my country, they'd probably believe covid was fake if it was available. They're still sane in that aspect, not into any of the online conspiracy theories.

                • gayhobbes [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  I'm pretty lucky that my family has shied away from that, but I have in laws who do

                  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    4 years ago

                    Yeah the covid truthers are something else. I had one of my university friends try pull that shit and after some private shaming and telling them that believing stuff like this is killing people and delaying my own healthcare and causing me to suffer they cut it out. They now barely leave the house and wear masks everywhere, I think I really scared them.

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    I hate the generation blaming shit

    • RedArquebus1917 [he/him]
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      Yeah I agree. Like I get where it comes from (most boomers and X-ers tend to have very regressive views, especially on LGBTQ), but it also doesn't acknowledge those that are aware of the class struggle. That plus I'm a Zoomer, and I go to school with many peers who subscribe to regressive right wing views (granted it's a very sheltered environment too, so I still love my generation).

    • lvysaur [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Hard whitepill: generations have almost nothing to do with it.

      If Generation Z were 90% white, its political leaning would be exactly the same as the Boomers

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      Disagree. Generational politics are foundationally a form of class politics in contemporary America.

      Older people have pulled the rug up behind them and continue to keep doing so even though there's little left.

  • leftofthat [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Gen X'ers always seem like they only focus on a single opponent or enemy, and it's rarely the billionaire class

    which is probably why they eat up Orange Man media

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      I just think of everyone I ever admired as a liberal in that set and they all turned out to be disappointingly centrist at best.

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        I mean tom morello and the other members of Rage Against The Machine are gen x right? So there are like a few good gen xers out there?

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          Presuming Kurt Cobain never killed himself, yes basically.

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            Also I think the members or Rise Against are gen x as well? Mostly vegan leftist band, even if they do some things that would be considered lib shit, like encouraging people to register to vote

            • gayhobbes [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Yeah they're okay, now I will tell you Foo Fighters sucks, they were all AIDS denialists.

              • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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                4 years ago

                Like how bad is the aids denialism from the foos? I come from a country that had a president that said HIV literally cannot cause AIDS, as in its not physically possible for the virus to cause AIDS, which led to 400 thousand preventable deaths. Also another president said that showering right after you potentially contact HIV can cure it and eliminate the virus.

                • gayhobbes [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  Well the Foo Fighters believed HIV didn't lead to AIDS and used to hand out pamphlets at their shows and donated a lot of money to conspiratorial orgs so...there's that.

                  • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    In January 2000, Nate Mendel led a benefit concert in Hollywood for AIDS denialist group Alive & Well AIDS Alternatives with a speech by founder Christine Maggiore and free copies of her self-published book, What If Everything You Thought You Knew About AIDS Was Wrong?[18][19] Additionally, the band's official website featured a section devoted to Alive & Well.[20] Sandra Thurman, then director of the Office of National AIDS Policy stated this was "extraordinarily irresponsible behavior" because "There is no doubt about the link between HIV and AIDS in the respected scientific community".[21] Links and references to Alive & Well have since been removed from the band's website and no further mentions or shows of support have been made.

                    What the hell

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        It's pretty sad. I think PZ Myers has drifted leftwards in recent years though.

        • gayhobbes [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          PZ Myers sucks a lot less, yes, but I wouldn't have expected that.

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          Yeah, the trans and gay acceptance front of nu-atheism became radlibs/Bernie types.

          Just checked his Twitter, he's retweeted a lot of Cornell West stuff and a protest call by a group called "revolutionary communists" so he's alright I guess.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The leaders of New Atheism are a prime example of this.

    • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Nah it's the opposite of this, genX is broadly nihilistic, which is why gen Z tends to adopt some of those traits.

      They think everything is bad, their eating up of orange man bad is exclusively because he is the current president.

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        genX is broadly nihilistic, which is why gen Z tends to adopt some of those traits.

        insanely relevant point that I'd never thought of before. Blew my mind

      • sappho [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        This is much more accurate to my experience. My parents are Gen X Republicans and they aren't actively hateful, they just have very unhappy lives and no driving philosophy or goals. They mentally and spiritually died in their twenties once I was born and they had fulfilled the obligation to create their nuclear family.

        • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Yeah I think going people have a desire to live a more fulfilling and wholistic life and that is a contributing factor to some of the current left wing shift even among people who come from decently well off families.

  • soufatlantasanta [any]
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    4 years ago

    gen xers were born during the tail end of leaded gasoline so they're slightly brain damaged but not as brain damaged as boomers

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    As a GenXer, I am pretty sure the reason is that growing up, we had NO class consciousness. Anything close to leftist thought was dismissed as fad culture, like "oh, it's just like the Hippy movement." Learning to really care about anything takes real fucking effort AND critical thinking... so GenXers who "should fucking know better but don't" (i.e. a majority) are totally that because of herd inertia. Zoomers are the first generation that has a real chance (still) to have its collective class-consciousness awoken. We all have to remember that the statistics of Silent Gen, Boomers, GenXers, and even Millenials are tilted right especially in the US -- it is not the generation that is to blame... it is always the capitalists in each generation.

    • Tittyskittles [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      The biggest political movements for gen x was “save Tibet” and “rock the vote” . That tells one all about the state of things then

      • lvysaur [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Save hong kong and go out and vote

        nothing ever actually changes

    • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      To be fair, the Reagan thing had already happened and there really wasn't much political discourse within the country back then. Elites (both in terms of wealth and random folks within the broader intellegencia) were essentially completely unified in how they felt the country should move forward during the Bush 41 and Clinton years.

      The Iraq war, the internet (and the social change that happened because of it, especially as it relates to religion), and the longer term effects of neoliberalism left the intellegencia totally unsure how to move forward.

        • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Celebrity populism played a role in the popularity of Reagan just as it does with Trump.

          But he was popular because deregulating the economy creates a ton of jobs and opportunity in the short term. It's just that all that wealth is captured now and no one can ever catch up.

    • guppyman [any]
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      4 years ago

      Yep, babbling about this shit is beyond pointless.

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        I mean there are differences in material conditions in different time periods, and it's not unrealistic to believe those different conditions inform broad ideological differences.

  • KiaKaha [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Us millennials made nazis cool again. Don’t think for a second we don’t get the generational wall.

  • DasKarlBarx [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Maybe I'm just tired but the generational generalizations feel so trite and played out at this point. Stop the self flagellation & stanning of other generations. It seems so reductive.

  • Chomsky [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    I'm 35 and my two brothers are 45 and man, this poltical compass aint wide enough for the three of us.

    • gayhobbes [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah not all of us suck (although at 35 you're a Millennial like me), but yeah the 45ers are weird.

  • PresterJohnBrown [any]
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    4 years ago

    They chose to sit out so that's how we treat them, as non-participants. They have had no lasting cultural impact and any memory of their pointless generation will be gone when they are, like a ghost fading back into the woodwork.

  • _else [she/her,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    ive seen mixed bag from zoomers (heya kyle!), but there are some good kids in there, and they know they don't get to live to old age unless they burn this shit down, whereas the older millenials had that whole 'live hard play hard' mentality from the 00's and don't even think about the future because they're too fucking brainwashed by corporate bullshit.

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    Zoomers are going to save us all.

    Black/Brown zoomers yea

    If you control for race, there is almost no difference in political leaning between boomers/millennials/generation zyklon. I think it was a 2% difference between white Zers and boomers.