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Legends.
You can't stop it now. The movement to nationalism is happening and it will keep happening until unification. Give it 10 years until a majority are for a united ireland, it will be accelerated by their leadership and the discussion being created by it.
:anti-thatcher-action: NOW the witch will truly die.
So what's the likelihood of Northern Ireland uniting with the Republic of Ireland? Will this be like the Scotland referendum?
This round, not likely, but they want a referendum in 2025.
They'll also need to form a coalition with the SDLP (their Labour Party which is nominally nationalist but not really) and the Alliance (Their Lib Dems, which has no position.) This will limit how nationalist they can be.
But if they can get re-elected, it looks pretty clear there'll be re-unification inside a decade.
but they want a referendum in 2025
boooo, it needs to be 2024 :data-laughing:
Reunification inside a decade would be absolutely insane. Quite frankly getting a border poll within the decade would be a pretty big step and not one I'm sure will happen so easily.
Here's the kicker about the Good Friday agreement and it's outlining of the re-unification process. ONLY the Northern Irish Secretary of State can call for a border poll. To be clear that's a British parliamentary position appointed by the UK Prime Minister, currently it's some Conservative MP called Brandon Lewis. That's right, absolutely no political party in N.I can officially trigger the border poll no mater how many seats they've won or not.
This puts the beginnings of re-unification squarely on the feet of the ruling party of the UK. Neither Labour or Conservatives want to be the ones that 'lost' Northern Ireland or restarted the troubles, so it is always going to be to their best interest to avoid triggering that poll for as long as they possibly can.
Here's how it's called out in the GFA. You can see that wording is intentionally vague enough that the Secretary of State can refuse to call the poll based on basically his own 'vibes' on the situation. Also note that if the republicans lose the poll, another cannot be held for 7 years. So not only do they need to get the Secretary of State to agree to call the poll, they had better be sure they'll win it.
That's probably the smart move to take on the side of N.I parties waiting to ask, but a dangerous game for the U.K to play if they're denying a poll requested!
If Sinn Féin are thinking straight they'll play the longer game, time is on their side demographics wise.
I would love to know more about Irish political history. Where can I learn more? Any books, essays, anything reliable to recommend?
I bought both volumes of his collected works from Connolly Books in Dublin (they shipped for a decent price) which is iirc owned in part by the communist party. Incredible read, and Labour in Irish History, as Soviet historian Artemy D Kolpakov wrote in a paper which was reprinted in those collections said, is one of the greatest works of historical materialism. Everything past the rising is numerous and I am sure others can give great suggestions. For the war of independence in a quick and succinct form read Lorcan Collins book "Irish war of independence"
" Congrats Englishman! You're the 100th customer today! Here are the keys to your new car! "
Come out ye black and tans is great and all, but come on folks we have a song literally FOR this occasion. I like the memes, but this is so sincere
Ireland: "We have just voted in the framework to reunite our country. The party is also pretty left-wing so this will mean the Irish people will get more rights."
The US: "We just made it illegal to not be part of the GOP! We will gladly overturn as many human rights as possible because the suffering on non-white, non-straight people just amuses us."
