https://nitter.net/MuellerSheWrote/status/1523104475233210368?t=meHkI38Xhok2M5IfWYrYhw&s=19
Germany fell to fascism because:
- Respectable mainstream conservatives would rather have the nazis running Germany than risking mild social democratic reforms.
- Big industrialists funded the Nazis like crazy
- Centrists believed the Nazis would keep their promises of they supported them
- The fucking SPD invited the Freikorps to crush the proletarian revolution in 1919. They then went on to have their heads up their arses and spent their energy fighting the KPD instead of the Nazis, right up until the takeover.
- The police and the courts were extremely friendly to the Nazis and let them get away with almost anything as long as they staved off the reds.
In short, Germany fell to fascism because the German bourgeoisie wanted it to fall.
This is of course an unacceptable conclusion to liberals so instead they make up bullshit about voting, like that ever changed anything.
And then the Brits and Americans waited out for war because they thought Hitler might deal with Russia for them.
I've done a bunch of research into the lead up to WWII and the evidence is clear that the UK was intentionally stoking tensions between Germany and the Soviets (a good summary from Counterpunch). What I still haven't figured out, though, is why Poland was the line in the sand for the policy of appeasement. If the UK wanted an armed conflict between Germany and the USSR, why be so passive on Austria and Czechoslovakia only to flip when Poland is threatened, when a partially annexed Poland would have been the gateway for the Eastern war that UK seemed to desire?
Because there were two factions in the British elite. The French were against going to war (yet, they wanted Hitler to crush the Soviets and then invade) but reluctantly did.
One, representing Capital, wanted the Soviets to fall at any cost but was sidelined due to Edward VIII causing a constitutional crisis. The other representing the British Civil Service and the Aristocracy, continued down the standard path of preventing a single power from dominating Europe and thought the Munich Conference was a line in the sand. Once Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia anyway they began mobilisation
Absolutely not. I've been told countless times "so was Hitler" when argue with libs about Chavez/Maduro being democratically elected.
Fair...since I suppose this take is more about the rise to power of the Nazi party as opposed to post reichstag where, as I understand it, things spiraled pretty quickly. Hard numbers are suspect past that point as you point out since nothing was free or legitimate anymore but the most chilling thing to me about accounts of people who lived in germany at this time was how normalized everything had been and how little dissent there actually was. Honestly I'm just harboring and venting deep frustration with people like this who I know are deeply convinced they'd be part of "the resistance" when everything I've read tells me they'd fall in line....since that's what they're doing today.
Hitler and the Nazi’s actually had the strong majority support of the German population
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Can you elaborate more on that? Now that I think about it, I don't actually know very much about how Hitler consolidated power, and/or how much popular support he & the Nazis had.
Hindenburg beat Hitler as President, but was reluctant to appoint Hitler as chancellor, even though the NSDAP won the most seats. After some backroom negotiations, he appointed him as chancellor. After the Reichstag fire, Hindenburg passed a decree, which gave Hitler more power, which he used to eliminate his opponents, mainly in the KPD and SPD. After he did that, he could easily get the Enabling Act of 1933 passed, which allowed him to override constitutional rights and pass legislation without parliament. Finally, Hindenburg died next year, and Hitler merged the positions of Chancellor and President into the position of Fuhrer, giving himself absolute power.
Basically, he was never directly elected, but he used the existing systems to give himself absolute power. He did nothing illegal whatsoever.
And this decade's 'Fattest L in our cultural zeitgeist' award goes to.....'Mueller she wrote'. It's not just a twitter handle but a whole podcast. Congrats for the infinity cringe
"Award Winning Podcast", won in 2019...
What is there left to discuss regarding that investigation? It's been literal years since it concluded. Do they just dog Trump now constantly, or has it turned into your garden variety lib podcast where they bash on conservatives and completely ignore libs?
I assume they had a patreon account and didn't want to end the free money tap
also i assume they lack the necessary ability to feel shame at their simping podcast named for a republican who didn't deliver on their fever dreams
I checked the show notes for some recent episodes and they have a "fantasy endictment league". They also talk about a $2B contract between Jared Kushner and MBF, a retired FBI agent comes in to talk about how to stop mass shooters, and an interview with A Havana Syndrome survivor who was apparently attacked on the White House campus.
All from the past month.
So garden variety lib shit then
Havana Syndrome survivor who was apparently attacked on the White House campus
lmao
"Yeah, I didn't get drunk the day before work, it was the wacky Cubans attacking me with their ray gun on the soil of the American President's house"
This country is a fucking nesting doll of scammers
why are they still simping on Mueller in 2022. that dude turned out to be a worthless coward
People in the replies claiming it was progressives failing to fall in line that allowed Hitler to come to power. US Americans should be barred from making any historical comparisons.
Progressives did fall in line and voted for the deeply reactionary Hindenburg in 1932 to prevent Hitler from becoming president. It worked, Hitler didn't become president but the very same Hindenburg then went on to appoint Hitler as chancellor a year later and dying shortly after.
The last free election that gave Hitler his majority had like 90% turnout rate.
After the Weimer government established Universal Suffrage with a legal voting age of 20, no less.
He was the preferred candidate of IBM, Chase National Bank, and the Associated Press.
Germany needed rational centrist solutions to a looming inflation crisis and only he was up to the challenge.
everyone should read "Hitler's American Model" even though the author is a fucking lib who apologizes too much to the reader for destroying their idea of America
The NYT was stanning Hitler in 1939, two weeks before the war.
you got a screenshot of that one? I like having these things on hand
https://www.nytimes.com/1939/08/20/archives/herr-hitler-at-home-in-the-clouds-high-up-on-his-favorite-mountain.html
This is the article in question. I'll see if I can find a paywall-free copy.
found it
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E01AlMVX0AI1NSd?format=jpg&name=large
Who were they pointing at in the Weimar to confound libs like we do the Nazis?
When people told me they hated Paul von Hindenburg or (far worse) that they were “not fans,” I wish I had said in no uncertain terms: “I love Paul von Hindenburg. I am in awe of him. I am set free by him. He will be the finest world leader our galaxy has ever seen.”
Maybe he is more than a president. Maybe he is an idea, a world-historical hero, light itself. The presidency is too small for him. He belongs to a much more elite class of Germans, the more-than-presidents.
It's his turn!
I'm mad that this person is sullying the good name of Murder, She Wrote :angery:
oh i can play this game! hmm..
Has anyone else ever pee pee poo poo? ...
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