So was the first one Air because of all the flying, or Earth because of the forests? Either way they need to do fire as well.
Uncritical support for the Navi in their fight against human imperialism.
The upcoming ones are named: “Avatar: The Way of Water,” “Avatar: The Seed Bearer,” “Avatar: The Tulkun Rider,” “Avatar: The Quest for Eywa.
wow, i'm legit surprised y'all don't love Avatar, the protagonists literally spend half the movie beating the shit out of the US Military
that being said it's James Cameron and it won't have marvel quips every three seconds, that's all they need to sell me a ticket lol
IMO, a valid way to interpret Avatar is that it's the most successful Maoist Third-Wordist movie ever made.
Oh, God. Marvel quips. I remember being dragged to a Star Wars movie and being so put off by the weird quips that were thrown in at different parts of the movie. Really killed the whole vibe for me.
I like marvel movies, but I truly resent what they’ve done to movies as a whole. I think the marvel quips actually work, in marvel movies. Most things shouldn’t fucking have them, marvel movies have one very specific vibe where that works.
It's an event movie that is not Marvel, that's exciting. Just hoping they adjusted the script to account for the fact that almost no one seeing this will remember anything from the first one lol.
From the looks of it there's some seizing of the means of production at some point
I can't think of a movie that had so little actual impact on the zeitgeist or culture at all. Worse, it made 3d movies a thing again, so thanks for that I guess, love to make movies just that harder to enjoy.
Also, someone else made a direct comparison of this trailer to the original teaser and they're identical lmfao
I saw it in 3d when it first came out was kinda mind-blowing at the time
Also, someone else made a direct comparison of this trailer to the original teaser and they’re identical lmfao
holy shit, you weren't kidding.
Someone needs to listen to the Chapo episode on Avatar. I used to hold the same opinion, but it genuinely changed my mind. They pointed out that the reason it didn't stick around in pop culture is that the ultimate morale of the story is that you have to take up arms in a revolutionary war against the United States military.
I think people think this because it's more than a decade later and we're just getting the second movie. If a sequel came out 2-3 years after the first it may have more cultural purchase, even if the sequel didn't sell as much. But James Cameron must not have been in a hurry to capitalize on it, so peoples memory has faded on it.
The fact that a sequel is finally coming has me curious. It'll either be very interesting or profoundly uninteresting.
I guess just memory or continued discussion, some type of fan following. I'm sure there are some Avatar fans keeping the lights on, but probably not as much as the other highest grossing movies of all time. I guess I just think that at the time it was a pretty big thing, but unlike every other major action movie it never got a sequel until now so it just faded.
I remember when it came out and literally everyone I knew went to go see it in 3D. The theaters around me had waitlists and we're running it on like 6 screens because of the demand.
The whole things was a huge phenomenon and everyone was talking about it, but it just faded really fast. There wasn't a huge push by the studio to merchandise it or expand it with "world building" like what Marvel ended up doing a few years later.
I think Avatar was kinda the precursor to Marvel in a way, but it has some artistic integrity to it that was lost with Marvel as it adopted the spectacle that Avatar created without even a pretence of substance.
I forget where it is, but there's a breakdown of the biggest media franchises and how much of their money is made from ticket sales, toy sales, tv, video games, etc. The MCU was the only one that made more from ticket sales than merch sales.
But I’m scared of the open ocean. Please adjust your multibillion-dollar-IP posting appropriately
I won't see it because I didn't care that much for the first one, but I hope this is good for the people who like it, and I hope it's fairly successful just because it's not Disney-owned. Or is this owned by Disney too now?
Animal Kingdom in Disney World has a whole Pandora area with multiple attractions.
Time to start "World Tree Center" posting. If the politics in this one are as good as the last one we could generate a bunch of anti-imperialism memes.
Since the defining event of the last film was Navi 9/11 and this one is focused on water I predict the humans will do a space BP spill and the rest of the film will be just radical environmentalism