Lets be real, it was probably chuds doing it themselves; they love that shit. If it was leftists, then do better next time and actually burn the fucking building down.
I laugh every time I read that just because of how ridiculous it was.
Nah, my money is it was some rad-lib who has no experience with arson. Which is like, all of them. If you read any thread about these attacks and most liberal responses range from "how many planned Parenthood's have been attacked?" to "good, cool".
Poor planning here - they attempted to break windows and failed, leading to the molotovs doing nothing. Or, if we believe the whole Jane's Revenge thing, then this could have been another warning shot.
What's "Jane's Revenge" I'm guessing it's not a based feminist pirate ship.
There was an anonymous claim of the attempted action in Madison by a group calling themselves Jane's Revenge and, in effect, indirectly calling for others to imitate their action.
Why is everything a damn op or false flag here? Even if it isn't leftists or an organization, it's just as likely (I'd say more but let's go with just as) some rando who this affects is pissed about the ruling, doesn't know of or have the understanding of adventurism and the consequences of doing these things without the support of the masses that we do, and they're lashing out?
Some angry person with poor planning is the simplest explanation with the least assumptions required here, even someone being inspired by the "Jane's revenge" thing and following their lead, or "Jane's revenge" being directly responsible is more likely than the feds or chuds purposefully botching attacks on anti abortion groups to justify violence and crackdown against protesters, though I admit, it's not even close to being out of the picture. Hell, even if "Jane's revenge" is legitimately an op, that doesn't automatically mean this one is too.
This isn't directed at you, it's just frustrating to see every possible act of direct action and resistance be delegitimized right off the bat when we literally have absolutely no goddamn information yet. People were calling the "Jane's revenge" stuff an op before anyone even claimed responsibility and all we knew was an anti-abortion groups hq got molotoved. It's reasonable to be suspicious and to withhold supporting something until we're able to sus it out, but at this point all I see is paranoid dismissal and yelling "FED" at every branch blowing in the window
Electoralism is working because idiots like you keep telling libs to not vote.
Politicians do not determine the course of history, the ruling class does. The politicians are just the tool through which they operate.
You do not change the direction or goals of the ruling class by voting. If they want it a certain way, they will get it that way.
You've really got to understand that the bourgeoisie as a class are hierarchically above the politicians, not below below them.
There are a dozen different ways to write an executive order that would protect women nationwide from roe v wade being abolished, they are collaborators and want this outcome.
Electoralism is working because idiots like you keep telling libs to not vote.
Well this is just not true. Electoralism doesn't work for quite a few reasons, including but not limited to:
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First past the post is a terrible way to run an election.
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Single member districts will always lead to outcomes that are bad for minorities.
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The political "left" (the Democrats) are clearly not left at all and would rather work with Republicans than help people.
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There are fewer polling places in poor, minority, or student neighborhoods, making it harder to vote if you're any of those things.
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Partisan gerrymandering is a thing, and the Democrats never use it for good, even though they could.
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The Democrats go out of their way to ensure that progressives don't win primaries, meaning the general election is usually between a ghoulish Republican and (at best) a useless "moderate".
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Pretty ironic to call anyone a radlib and then go "The republicans wanna ban voting because they know where real power lies".
I wouldn't listen to someone who thinks electoralism works(for whom does she think it works?), that we should "infiltrate" the police, thinks calling socdems as social fascists is incorrect.
A) It was a joke, and B) Conservatives do do this stuff to themselves all the time because they have an imaginary persecution complex. All this being said it probably was just some angry person venting energy, to which I still say, "do better next time."
A) didn't read it as a joke when I replied so that's my b, but again this wasn't directed at you, more just venting my frustration at the general consensus I've been seeing often here that everything is a chud fed op. I've seen it in like 3 different threads in the past couple days alone. By dismissing every single thing as an op without first investigating, we're literally doing the feds' jobs for them.
B) Again, I'm not saying that it isn't an op or a bunch of chuds, because yeah they do things like this all the time ("blacks rule" comes to mind) and I'm not denying that, or that we shouldn't be cautious about them, but thinking critically and finding the explanation that takes the fewest assumptions to reach is what we as a community should be doing until we actually have reason to believe otherwise. No investigation, no right to speak basically.
C) I agree, do better next time
Even a 12oz bottle should have done more scorching than that. what were they using to hold kerosene a juice pouch?
You'd think if people were going to cop an arson charge with a terrorism upgrade they'd put some muscle behind it. If you're going to pick a fight with the DHS you shouldn't throw your life away cheap.
"It's concerning," said Keizer Police Lt. Trevor Wenning. "[People should] use their kind words to influence public opinion as opposed to putting lives in danger."
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“[People should] use their kind words to influence public opinion as opposed to putting lives in danger.”
Which is why the police use their kind words to influence public onion away from crime, right?
I don't think "Texas is pursuing the death penalty for abortions" has really penetrated people's skulls yet.
If you were a small anti-abortion business owner, I'm trying to think of a way you could inflict less damage to your property than what is shown here... "Oh no - the sidewalk is mildly scorched! Better get the local news to instill fear in the populace via interviews with nearby neighbours that are like, 'my grandkids are so unsafe now!'".
