I understand that dems are committed to losing but I don't understand WHY they're so committed to losing. It must be a cavalcade of independent incentives that lead them to suckin' so hard.
I spose this could be the grim side effect of keeping manchin around — he gets to sink WHATEVER, and everyone else has a direct incentive to make sure he stays in place so he can keep killing things so they don't have to come out against the stuff they want to pretend they want passed.
It's always been about first principles, neoliberals believe any policy that limits, constrains, or disempowers workers is a public good, their reasons for believing this demonic nonsense varies tho they fit into three main categories; people who believe liberal theory, people who are cynical and power mad, and dumbasses who take the propaganda at face value, the rest are just a combination of these three tendencies
Of course you can't say this shit out loud outside of fundraiser parties because its terrible OPTICS, so they marry the marketing industry and the smart university trained theorists among them attempt to create a fictional division between social and economic conditions as if that makes any sense
These people are wearing masks, they do not believe in empowering workers and they do not believe in progressive change, the majority of them are more cynical than the most doomer-pilled posadist, with a mindset like that, losing under the banner of "the left" becomes a virtue
Because they are inseparably wedded to capitalism while at the same time understanding themselves as being "the left", the guys who wants to do good stuff for common people.
If they win, being the "good guys" means that they are expected to do good stuff, they even expect it themselves, but their firm ideological commitment to capitalism prevents them from doing it. This leads to all sorts of confusion and disappointments.
On the other hand, losing allows them to claim the moral high ground for free. They get to be people who wants to do good stuff without having to do any of it.
Yeah like I get the idea that they have to keep being on the rails to keep getting campaign money and votes, but yah know I sorta thing this strat would require them winning SOMETIMES. If you literally just suck shit at every turn people are going to get demoralized and just say "fuck it".
I understand that dems are committed to losing but I don't understand WHY they're so committed to losing. It must be a cavalcade of independent incentives that lead them to suckin' so hard.
They're not losing. We're losing. They're doing great.
This is a very good response. :parenti: energy over here.
Because as long as they exist they're the most-left political option available, and as long as they keep failing they can prevent leftward movement
Is even keeping abortion legal too left for them?
I spose this could be the grim side effect of keeping manchin around — he gets to sink WHATEVER, and everyone else has a direct incentive to make sure he stays in place so he can keep killing things so they don't have to come out against the stuff they want to pretend they want passed.
Manchin isn't killing this bill - this bill is DOA already. I think you're right about it being a side effect, though.
It's always been about first principles, neoliberals believe any policy that limits, constrains, or disempowers workers is a public good, their reasons for believing this demonic nonsense varies tho they fit into three main categories; people who believe liberal theory, people who are cynical and power mad, and dumbasses who take the propaganda at face value, the rest are just a combination of these three tendencies
Of course you can't say this shit out loud outside of fundraiser parties because its terrible OPTICS, so they marry the marketing industry and the smart university trained theorists among them attempt to create a fictional division between social and economic conditions as if that makes any sense
These people are wearing masks, they do not believe in empowering workers and they do not believe in progressive change, the majority of them are more cynical than the most doomer-pilled posadist, with a mindset like that, losing under the banner of "the left" becomes a virtue
Because they are inseparably wedded to capitalism while at the same time understanding themselves as being "the left", the guys who wants to do good stuff for common people.
If they win, being the "good guys" means that they are expected to do good stuff, they even expect it themselves, but their firm ideological commitment to capitalism prevents them from doing it. This leads to all sorts of confusion and disappointments.
On the other hand, losing allows them to claim the moral high ground for free. They get to be people who wants to do good stuff without having to do any of it.
Same reason a boxer takes a dive in the ring, money
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Yeah like I get the idea that they have to keep being on the rails to keep getting campaign money and votes, but yah know I sorta thing this strat would require them winning SOMETIMES. If you literally just suck shit at every turn people are going to get demoralized and just say "fuck it".
to an extent the democratic party are just this bad at politics.
pork barrel theory is just an absolutely dogshit framework to work off