I like the trillbillies assessment that they are a lifestyle brand that fundraises on the possibility of the people that give them money could someday be as rich and as virtue signaling as them.
I'm not sure what one it is. It's probably from about a year ago, but my sense of time is so messed up
I did a little Googling around, and couldn't find anything. There might be transcripts if you were a Patreon subscriber, which I am currently not.
. It’s probably from about a year ago, but my sense of time is so messed up
I feel you there post lockdown I have no ability to remember the order in which events happened
I feel like I've been living the same day for almost two years at this point.
I ask people what day it is just to double check I'm not in groundhog day
So, the Democratic Party = Goop, for PMC climbers
My god, it all makes sense.
It couples nice with The North Face, REI, expensive jeeps and "In this house..." Signs.
far too much credit democrats are the principals who say their hands are tied and they can't graduate kids because of lunch debt
I’m sure the Dems would have another set of Manchins or Sinemas lined up.
What’s that called when they have someone in the own party that goes against them? It’s not controlled opposition is it? I can’t think of the term
Right, everybody talks about the rotating villain but who would want to be that if it meant losing your minecraft save. It really is just one guy holding back 300+ million people. Nobody would ever want to volunteer to be the rotating villain again.
It’s more likely to be a lib, tbh. Especially considering how well the rotating villain strategy has worked at pushing the blame.
What's going to happen once the media learns about this site once someone here decides to play Minecraft Hardcore Mode?
Liberals deserve the hell they've created. The only sad thing is that I can't hold them against the fire until they're ash and no longer a threat to meaningful people.
edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/undbmc/joe_manchin_says_hell_vote_against_democrats_bill/
Half of the Judas goats are defending him as tHe bEsT wE'vE gOt because he vOtEs fOr jUdGeS. Absolute fucking cancer.
Liberals are literally incapable of thinking about revolution in their country. The new line is that Joe Manchin will vote for judges that are pro-choice.
Nothing has changed for libs. 2 months ago was ‘argh i hate him but at least he’s not repo and he’s confirming judges’, and it’s the same shit now.
Ah yes the judiciary. The institution which has definitely proven itself reliable in implementing the Democratic program.
They watered down the bill before the vote...
"In the latest version of the bill, Democrats removed nonbinding language about transgender rights and the disparate racial impacts of abortion restrictions, amid concerns from moderate members of the caucus."
Remember: we can't primary him because nobody else could possibly win in West Virginia. Never mind the obvious fallacy inherent to this argument, get out there and :vote: for this obstructionist.
Reminder that WV was a reliably blue state for decades, even after it was abandoned by the Dems and deindustrialized. It was only in the 90s that it started shifting red
The most rock solid blue state in the union, and the democrats fucked it all up and now blame it on the people they screwed over.
what exactly happened there? Im guessing union destruction but I dont know the story
The historical phenomenon, as with all things, is more complicated, but the long and short of it is basically yes. The democrats betray on union labor gutted the only real social formation in these regions that pushed back against the right.
no you may be wondering what's the point of winning west virginia if you get Manchin out of it.
plus it's an american election once anyone wins the first thing they do is gerrymander all the districts. as an election in america it's allmost definitionally rigged so if they wanted they could get whoever they want in within reason
🌏 👩🏼🚀 🔫 👩🏼🚀 in the nineties it was Joe Lieberman, they also did a lot more "rotating villain" but now they don't bother much
sir if we just primary Lieberman with Ned Lamont we can change things —some lib, ages ago
Wasn't it Lieberman who tanked the public option in Obamacare? The thing that would have would have made it actually work instead of a handout to insurance companies.
I understand that dems are committed to losing but I don't understand WHY they're so committed to losing. It must be a cavalcade of independent incentives that lead them to suckin' so hard.
I don’t understand WHY they’re so committed to losing
They're not losing. We're losing. They're doing great.
Because as long as they exist they're the most-left political option available, and as long as they keep failing they can prevent leftward movement
Is even keeping abortion legal too left for them?
I spose this could be the grim side effect of keeping manchin around — he gets to sink WHATEVER, and everyone else has a direct incentive to make sure he stays in place so he can keep killing things so they don't have to come out against the stuff they want to pretend they want passed.
Manchin isn't killing this bill - this bill is DOA already. I think you're right about it being a side effect, though.
It's always been about first principles, neoliberals believe any policy that limits, constrains, or disempowers workers is a public good, their reasons for believing this demonic nonsense varies tho they fit into three main categories; people who believe liberal theory, people who are cynical and power mad, and dumbasses who take the propaganda at face value, the rest are just a combination of these three tendencies
Of course you can't say this shit out loud outside of fundraiser parties because its terrible OPTICS, so they marry the marketing industry and the smart university trained theorists among them attempt to create a fictional division between social and economic conditions as if that makes any sense
These people are wearing masks, they do not believe in empowering workers and they do not believe in progressive change, the majority of them are more cynical than the most doomer-pilled posadist, with a mindset like that, losing under the banner of "the left" becomes a virtue
Because they are inseparably wedded to capitalism while at the same time understanding themselves as being "the left", the guys who wants to do good stuff for common people.
If they win, being the "good guys" means that they are expected to do good stuff, they even expect it themselves, but their firm ideological commitment to capitalism prevents them from doing it. This leads to all sorts of confusion and disappointments.
On the other hand, losing allows them to claim the moral high ground for free. They get to be people who wants to do good stuff without having to do any of it.
Same reason a boxer takes a dive in the ring, money
Yeah like I get the idea that they have to keep being on the rails to keep getting campaign money and votes, but yah know I sorta thing this strat would require them winning SOMETIMES. If you literally just suck shit at every turn people are going to get demoralized and just say "fuck it".
to an extent the democratic party are just this bad at politics.
pork barrel theory is just an absolutely dogshit framework to work off
same thing Susan Collins said yesterday. "Oh, when I said I support federal protections for abortion, I didn't mean this. This bill is wrong for... reasons. I'd totally support some other hypothetical bill that doesn't exist. In fact, I support all hypothetical bills protecting the right to an abortion."
Because the only people who know enough about him to care AND hate his guts are lib civility fetishists who will ardently explain at length how, no really you guys, he's not the WORST option
Well, see, he could be a Republican who votes against every Dem bill rather than a Dem who... uh...
That's not fair he voted with the libs on the SCOTUS protection thing!
Just embarrassing really. Libs saw directly that you could put the fear in Congress just by showing up, and they decided to use this new information to vow and swear never to wield effective power ever.
During the Kavanaugh hearings I had a liberal on reddit lecture me on strategic voting. Manching will vote opposite of Susan Collins yada yada yada. When it comes to important shit, Manchin will vote with democrats. I wish I could find that motherfucker boot his ass to the moon.
He can't even contribute the 50th vote, while keeping the filibuster, making sure it doesn't pass anyway? Love it!
The thing is, Democrats could easily kick Manchin out or shove him to the side like they do Bernie, but they won't. Curious. :thinking-about-it:
