• CoralMarks [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      What do they think they'll actually achieve by that?
      Filling up the prisons? Like they wouldn't just build camps within a matter of days.
      Or do they think mass arrests will spawn major support from the rest of the people? If that would be true, we'd already be living in fully automated luxury space communism.

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        No, it's purely symbolic. The arrests are prenegotiated with police who then do "catch and release"detainment, often not even arrests.

        • Hgfantomos [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Same tactics that Fight for 15 used. I remember when burger town, or whatever it was called in Portland, unionized, some big shot from the LA branch came in to give us a pep talk about how organizing can’t be done that way anymore and the Fight for 15 was doing it right using the catch and release tactic seen here. Basically condescendingly trashed them for no reason.

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Couldn't they... paint a wall and then leave instead?

    • discontinuuity [he/him]
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      I was done with them when they blocked a subway car in a working class neighborhood of London. If they can't have class solidarity then fuck 'em

  • Bonescape [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If there's still people who think there's any way to remotely do anything about climate change which is not either rigorously socialist or explicitly anti capitalist, I have a bridge to sell you.

    • CoralMarks [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Just buy one of Elon's cars as absolution, it'll be fine.

      • OgdenTO [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Imagine thinking that more consumption is the solution to climate change

        • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          haha, of course not. Actually, individual consumer choice is the solution to climate change 😎

          • lvysaur [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            no, using more energy is the solution
            make sure you go on a carnivore diet :^)

      • Elon [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        I'll accept a deposit and have it with you sometime in the next 3 years.

  • dolphinhuffer [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    "Just to be clear, we are not an ideologically coherent movement. We do not trust theory or thinking, we trust the randos still hanging around at the end of our game of woke musical chairs."

    • Sbebg [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Read my comment down below because they tried to recruit me and you have no idea how accurate that is...

  • kfc [any]
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    4 years ago

    Shit like this fucking enrages me - I know it's stupid, but it's so emblematic of the goddamn dumbass lib mindset. Their insistence on distancing themselves from organized, methodical revolutionary change is going to kill us all. Screaming into the void etc, every day is exhaustion

  • OgdenTO [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    "we're not a socialist movement, because we don't know what that means. We just believe in supporting the people, the working class people, and want decisions about the future of be decided by, owned by, and supporting all of the people."

    Also we don't really want that because we can't imagine anything other than liberalism.

      • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        The progressive stack is absolutely what killed occupy wall street. I have a sneaking suspicion that something like COINTELPRO was used to push liberal identity politics into the left rather than solidarity. I might do an effortpost on this soon.

        • PaulRyansWorkoutTape [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          In the first weeks of the movement, I checked the Official website and there was a schedule of events planned at the park, of which six a day were 'slut walks'

          Remember those?

  • vaushisapedo [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    TrueAnon has a very good ep discussing XR as potentially working for the feds.

    Episode 20: It's Not Easy Being Green, runs down the last 30 minutes demonstrating/exposing XR.

  • Sbebg [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Former roommate was involved in this she was an antivaxxer Didn’t find out until after this debacle and tried to get me to join. Wasn’t a horrible pitch until a white non-binary person told me I had to be on the front lines of the traffic disruption because I was white while POC were in the back and that they couldn’t because they had a seizure disorder. I asked all of them if they had ever been arrested and they said no. Me on the other hand has been arrested for almost murdering someone who tried to rape me on a bunch of drugs trigger my psychosis. If they were actually willing to protest at the front with me, I would’ve. It was just hypocritical and fucking stupid to ask something of me you wouldn’t do. Oh and they said I was likely to be arrested while they were not. Keep in mind if I get convicted of anything I basically get my last 3 felonies on my permanent record. In conclusion they are just larpers who try to get people arrested on the front lines while they incur no risk because muh insert health issue. Any group who tries to get you arrested is a psy op. XR definitely is one. Also they made us put our phones in the microwave because muh government is spying on us. And I’m all like. Wtf y’all are literally georgia tech nerds the government does give a single shit about you you self important weeaboos.

    • Chomsky [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      We don't support democratic reform of the economy because we trust the demos.

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    almost as bad as the time they told supporters to spray paint their hand red and turn themselves in to police

  • Darkmatter2k [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Lol, ok, yeah fuck them, what a pathetic waste of time. This probably explains why they have accomplished anything other than annoying libs.

  • Sushi_Desires
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    4 years ago

    I posted lightly about some of this stuff in the sub, but that unfortunately means the links are gone, and it's very difficult/time consuming to find them again on twitter. This stuff came up around late 2018 / early 2019 I think, but XR literally used to have a bunch of marketing speak on their website talking about "branding" and discovering new markets and new partnerships and all that. There used to be groups for 'XR Landlords' and 'XR Police' too. I guess these things in an allegedly organic decentralized movement could be foreseen, but seeing all that with the voluntary arrest stuff and disruption of mass transit really turned me off to the whole thing.

    Edit: just found some links at the last second:

    https://twitter.com/dunkelzahn_/status/1186167011635814405?s=20

    https://twitter.com/linaposting/status/1184836246213775360?s=20

    https://twitter.com/WinterOakPress/status/1195253839810744320?s=20

    https://twitter.com/BigProsody/status/1185043315265167360?s=20

    https://twitter.com/a_love_3/status/1141695623546249216?s=20

    "XR landlords" as a search query will pull up all sorts of discussion about this stuff. I wish I had taken screenshots of all that marketspeak BS from their own site though, it's a little harder to dig up.