This is what happens when you donate to a lib organization, they’ve definitely done a few good things w the money but really weird uses including basically a content house, paying consultants millions who were family / closely related to the people in charge of the $ and having a ton of money in stonks

  • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    This is what happens when the original activists/founders of the movement all "mysteriously die" in a series of unresolved murders. The movement gets hijacked by a bunch of profit-seeking libs.

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    1 year ago

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  • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Unsurprising, the leadership are all major libs who don't do shit.

    The Los Angeles chapter repeatedly has pocketed the money for years now.

      • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Oh I'm aware.

        A lot of the leadership are suspiciously tied to the Democratic Party apparatus prior to their coopting.

        • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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          2 years ago
          lenin_quote.txt

          During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it.

  • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    it's really shitty cause there is quite a lot of the smaller, local orgs that are out there every fuckin day fighting to keep people housed and fed and the national org isn't giving shit to them. they've been put on blast quite a few times by the mothers of dead black men and women.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I'm not sure I've ever seen the "Official" BLM on the ground at anything related to street level BLM.

    • LeninsRage [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Do they literally do anything other than generate bad press and shower money on themselves? Are they even the same people as the ones who run the website claiming they're Marxists that CHUDs like to point to as indicative of the entire movement's nature?

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]M
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        2 years ago

        Our local was actively fighting with more radical activists and literally handing people to cops. The head of it was even a landlord (this is just the "official" menshevik style one)

      • CommCat [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        yeah I remember seeing Patrisse Cullors on therealnewsnetwork and she claimed she was a Marxist, and about a year later, she's out buying mansions lol

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      The progressive grifter space in the US is really weird as a foreigner. Surely you can make more money scamming libs and Chuds, but maybe there's too much "competition" in that field? So the progressive grifter space is an "untapped market" (eww) for fraudsters.

      • CommCat [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        normally rightwing grift would be where the $$ is, but BLM was such a huge social phenomenon that was at the top of the news for months. Corporations, Sports Teams and other wealthy entities had to find an easy way to show that they "cared" about injustice so they just poured millions into the most toothless lib BLM org.

  • Quimby [any, any]
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    2 years ago

    Idk... reading the article, I have mixed feelings. I do think there is something to be said for the idea of "decolonizing philanthropy" and letting people organize, even if it's a bit rough around the edges. And it does sound like a lot of money is going to local orgs, which is a good thing.

    But it also sounds like there is probably some amount of overcompensation and self dealing... but, bigger and whiter orgs often get more of a pass for the same thing... but, that also doesn't excuse it...

    • LeninsRage [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Becoming part of the NGO-industrial complex won't "decolonize" anything, it just means you either sell out or start scamming the people who actually care.

      Not trying to sound harsh but this is essentially how the system absorbs genuine grassroots activists and turns them into cogs. I think Adam Johnson has made comments this was his experience working for some prison abolition/reform NGO in San Francisco as well.

    • P00h_Beard [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Philanthropy is a part of colonization. You have to eliminate philanthropy through decolonization.

  • Grownbravy [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Always seems to happen is that libs swoop in like hawks to set up what ever they can to get things directed their way at what ever level above what grass roots organizing is capable of, therefore immediately outside of their control or accountability.

    Of course everyone will think it’s helpful at first, cause how can we know? How can we check? Usually they move in faster than on-the-ground people even know is happening.

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      2 years ago

      How would a group such as this make it explicit from the beginning that being co-opted by liberals is against their ideology and forbidden?

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        I remember he started a "fundraiser" for Tamir Rice without telling the family, and that caused issues between him and BLM. Also various people accusing him of grifting and fraud though various fundraisers and some website he started.

        I googled to find out his name, it's the Shaun King guy. While I obviously can't comment on his racial identity (it is definitely possible for mixed race people to look very "white"), the numerous accusations of fraud and being a progressive grifter are very concerning.

        No idea how involved he is with BLM after the fallout regarding the "fundraisers" he did.

        • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          I've been following Shaun King for years and yet to see any accusations that really stick. Like he's totally a lib and you shouldn't expect anything but lib shit from him but he doesn't seem to be trying to rip anyone off and he amplifies a lot of the acab energy out there.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    turns out if you give someone that is unprincipled, unregulated, yet oppressed a lot of money they will use that money for personal gain :thinkin-lenin:

    cant say i wouldnt do the same, really. if someone plopped 50k in my lap right now id use it for surgeries immediately

  • sourquincelog [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I'm not gonna read the article, but a ~$5 million dollar setup in a major city wouldn't be unusual. That multiplied by ten cities is already $50 million, right?

  • Dangitbobby [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    This's the thing about populists - they see the establishment is feeding at the trough, and whenever they finally get some influence, they want a place at the trough. They are then shocked to see the establishment use its weapons to point out that they've got a place at the trough and how this is a very bad thing.