Can’t wait for us to try nothing to stop this and then be all out of options with a disease that has an up to 10% mortality rate in certain strains :covid-cool:

Good news: smallpox vax is ~85% effective against monkeypox, monkeypox tends to be less transmissible than other poxes

Bad news: young people tend to no longer be vaccinated for smallpox, human to human transmission of monkeypox is rare which means we are likely dealing with a new strain (of all cases in Britain, only one has recently been to west Africa but no other patients have or have been in contact with the patient who travelled)

  • chlooooooooooooo [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    the 10% mortality rate figure comes from the Congo strain of monkeypox and bear in mind that's in a country with one of the very worst healthcare systems in the world. this strain is almost certainly the west african one, which is more like 1% fatal (and the same caveat about healthcare infrastructure applies there too, so most regions will be better off still)

    This is still v worrying and it's ridiculous how badly it's being downplayed by western media. The western response (or lack of one, rather) really has me appreciating china's covid response back in 2020 a lot more - imagine if they'd delayed the lockdown a few more days and allowed exponentially more infected people to seed it across the world, the spring 2020 wave would have been apocalyptic.

    • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Yeah I’ve been thinking out that a lot lately. If China didn’t shut down fucking immediately the shit the world would have gone through with the first wave would have been apocalyptic

  • MikeHockempalz [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    We're so fucked lol

    Xi pls let me in, I'll do literally any job if it means I can live in a country that won't be permanently ravaged by disease

  • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Bad news: young people tend to no longer be vaccinated for smallpox

    That's an understatement. It's been eradicated for decades, almost no-one gets vaccinated for smallpox.

    • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah, since the disease is no longer extant the harms of the vaccine outweigh its benefits*. The smallpox vaccine was the first vaccine invented by humanity and as a result it's relatively primitive and dangerous.

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-most-dangerous-vaccine/

      *if monkeypox becomes prevalent that might change.

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Today, smallpox is a potential weapon of mass destruction that could be wielded against the U.S. by enemies like Iraq and al Qaeda.

        :wtf-am-i-reading:

        • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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          edit-2
          3 years ago

          First published on December 11, 2002

          This was written during the height of the war on terror and not long after the CIA and Ft. Detrick unknown terrorists sent anthrax to US congresspeople who were against the Patriot Act.

          • invo_rt [he/him]
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            edit-2
            3 years ago

            The whole anthrax thing is unbelievably sus. The anthrax was a particular kind of weaponized form that could've only come from a US bio """defense""" lab ala Detrick and it ended up in the mail of key politicians and media figures.

            :sus-deep:

        • invo_rt [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          There's so much forgotten history about Bush Jr and the smallpox vaccine. Robbie Martin of Media Roots Radio did a long run down of the entire administration push for the vaccine and it's pretty wild.

  • FirstToServe [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    The illness typically lasts for 2−4 weeks. In Africa, monkeypox has been shown to cause death in as many as 1 in 10 persons who contract the disease.

    https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/symptoms.html

    :oh-shit:

  • Mizokon [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    :ussr-cry: no longer exists so there won't be an eradication program :yea: :lets-fucking-go:

  • kristina [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    i know i probably shouldnt be concerned but i had both of my arms randomly rash up the other day :soviet-bashful:

    • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Definitely read up on the symptoms and if you are still concerned it would be wise to contact a doctor. Worst case scenario is that you are properly treating a run of the mill rash

    • Mindfury [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      and where did that bring you?

      back to me :monke-return:

    • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
      hexagon
      ·
      3 years ago

      I genuinely think people would care more about this one because it makes you LOOK fucked up. The ranking of how people will react goes as follows:

      Will it permanently disfigure me? -real shit

      Will it be clear I have an illness by how I look? - I will take the proper precautions

      Will I keep looking normal but it’ll be a shitting disease? - I take it pretty seriously

      Will it be like covid? - I sleep

  • Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    I've got a remote gig and some freelance skills I can use, I'm dropping out of society as much as I can at this point.

    Fuck this, to the hills