Apparently not changing moral stances in private vs in public makes us unable to understand personal gain. Some real Ayn Rand shit.

  • amber2 [she/her,they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I have a condition where I don't want to commit acts of evil, sorry :shrug-outta-hecks:

  • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    It's nice to see actual scientific evidence for what I've anecdotally noticed about people on the spectrum, that they are very moral and ethical and are usually surprised about neurotypicals "moral flexibility."

    Like, if you ask people "if you found a wallet with $1000 in it and a driver's license, knowing that no one will be hurt if you take $100 in this hypothetical, and no one will notice and you will not get punished by doing so - would you take some money form it?" Neurotypicals usually say yes even though they say it's wrong, people on the spectrum usually say no and are pretty surprised about it.

    Also, I swear people with ASD are extremely charitable and are probably up there with the furries for most charitable donations per capita.

    • Wildgrapes [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Tbf as an autistic there are situations I'd take the money. Namely if the drivers license said "Elon Musk" but this is still consistent withy morals of steal from the parasites

      • JamesGoblin [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        In his case I'd return all the money, just spraying it with the most cancerous neurotoxin I could find.

    • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      It’s nice to see actual scientific evidence for what I’ve anecdotally noticed about people on the spectrum, that they are very moral and ethical and are usually surprised about neurotypicals “moral flexibility.”

      Gee, i'm beginning to suspect that neuroscience in the imperial core is being re-tooled by the bourgeoisie to uphold and promote behavior we used to call sociopathic, and to label people with empathy and ethics as an inflexible outgroup, unfit to operate in a free market. :doomer:

      • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        i think the implication is meant to be that they're rich enough to not be hurt by losing $100, in which case the moral thing to do is probably to buy gasoline with the money and burn down their house, but maybe not.

        • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          How much money would have to be in the wallet to not miss a $100 bill? That’s not how money works

          Edit: not trying to criticize you, just the study

          • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            yeah i dunno. they made up the scenario so they get to say "no harm" even when it's completely unrealistic. and we're the unreasonable ones for not stealing from some rando who could have just as easily sold their car or gotten scammed by a payday lender.

    • berrytopylus [she/her,they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Do I know the person in the license? Beause if they're some local rich fuck or celebrity then that wealth distribution is fine by my moral code. But if it's just random Joey who is already struggling to pay his bills and took out 1,000 because he needed to do something directly then of course it's wrong to take any!

  • oopsydazey [he/him, love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    these assholes are really like wow! how can we make autistic tendencies to uphold their morality regardless of social pressure a bad thing? slap dysfunctional abnormality on that I guess. the framing of this paper is horrendous. they took a really cool study and warped it to push their biases that autistics are inherently impaired. allistics really can't help themselves.

    also the wording of calling the allistic participants in the study "healthy controls" as opposed to the "obviously diseased" autistic participants is big gross.

    • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Yes yes yes

      It’s actually an interesting result and even seems to, from a neurological perspective, be sound. It’s “the worst guy you know just made a great point” for an entire paper

      • oopsydazey [he/him, love/loves]
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        2 years ago

        someone responded to the article criticizing its framing and made this amazing statement

        I suspect a better frame through which to present the authors' data would be "Right temporoparietal junction underlies pervasive moral inconsistency in Neurotypical Spectrum Disorder".

        I'm obsessed

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  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    I remember a New York Times article that said you could tell somebody had autism by looking at their face shape. Some real phrenology shit being pushed.

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  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    If you say being the social canary is having a diseased brain, you really have to look inward huh.

    • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah like what am I supposed to do just forget all that bad things I’ve ever done instead of remembering them via intrusive thoughts?

      • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Still plagued by the memory of when I was 7 and tried to get a couple arcade tokens from one of the Chuck E. Cheese employees because there was a machine that was jammed, only for him to tell me that someone had already complained about it 5 minutes before.

  • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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    2 years ago

    Oh THIS is why people ask if I'm autistic. Cause I hope myself to a standard and the world in contempt.

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  • amber2 [she/her,they/them]
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    2 years ago

    It's a belief of fundamentalist Christians that only fear of a vengeful god can keep people moral in their private lives, but I guess if you manage to stay true to your beliefs without fear of retaliation then you must have a mental dysfunction

    Sorry if I'm being an edgy atheist, I think christianity is cool I just don't believe in it

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Growing up autistic really makes it clear just how often people will take advantage of others if they think they can get away with it

  • berrytopylus [she/her,they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Like 75% of the autistic people I meet are the most authentic humans you'll ever meet. The problem is, despite claiming otherwise most NT society does not actually want authenticity, they just want the vibe of trustworthiness.

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    2 years ago

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