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Timeline with 911 calls:

Timeline explained by Texas Police 5/27/2022

11:27 - Exterior door propped open by teacher
11:28 - Shooter crashes car in ditch. teacher runs into her room to grab a phone goes back out to the door to call 911
11:28 - 2 males at funeral home approach shooter after crash, they get shot at, one of them fell
11:30 - 911 call from teacher "There is a crash and a man with a gun"
11:31 - Shooter reaches last row of vehicles in the school parking lot
11:31 - Shooter begins to shoot at the school windows. Several cop cars arrive at the car crash site
-- Confirms resource officer for the school WAS NOT ON CAMPUS at this time. Stated that he heard the call and drove to the school (was under 1 minutes
away) and drives right by the shooter AT THE SAME TME as the shooter is firing into school windows --
11:32 - More shots fired at the school. At least 100 rounds have been fired at the school from outside.
11:33 - Shooter enters the school and goes into the classroom and starts to shoot
11:35 - 3 cops enter the school through the open door. 4 more cops follow them [7 total]. 2 cops received 'grazing wounds' through the closed classroom door
11:37 - More rounds fired [Not specified who is shooting]
11:38 - More rounds fired [Not specified who is shooting]
11:40 - More rounds fired [Not specified who is shooting]
11:44 - More rounds fired [Not specified who is shooting]
11:51 - More officers arrive
12:03 - More officers arrive and go into the school. There are now 19 officers in the hallway outside of the classroom
12:03 - Child in the classroom calls 911. Call lasts 1 minute 22 seconds
12:10 - Child calls back to 911. Tells them that multiple people are dead in her classroom
12:13 - Child calls back to 911
12:15 - BORTAC arrives
12:16 - Child calls back to 911. Says there are 8-9 students alive in her classroom
12:19 - Different child calls into 911. Hangs up when another student tells her to
12:21 - Child calls back to 911. You can hear shots in the background of the call
12:21 - Shooter shoots again and is believed to be at the door of the classroom. Cops move down the hallway towards it
12:36 - Child calls back to 911. Operator asks her to stay on the call and stay quiet
12:43 - Child on with 911 asks the Operator to "Please send in the police now"
12:46 - Child on with 911 says she can hear the police next door
12:47 - Child on with 911 asks the Operator to "Please send in the police now" again
EDITED: 12:50 - Local police are still asking the feds that have arrived to wait. Feds breach the door without the local police with keys from the janitor - local police had keys the whole time.
12:50 - Shooter killed

58 total magazines brought by the shooter
1657 rounds were purchased by the shooter

  • cawsby [he/him]
    hexagon
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    2 years ago

    There were 19 police officers in the hallway who made the decision not to break into the room, at the same time children inside were alive and calling 911.

    https://twitter.com/IAmAmnaNawaz/status/1530222852208738305

      • cawsby [he/him]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        The local cops misclassified the shooter as a "barricaded subject" - which means no survivors in the room - while children inside were calling 911 under desks, smearing the blood of other children on themselves, and the teacher may have still been alive and bleeding out at that point as well.

    • D61 [any]
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      2 years ago

      I guess none of their "CoD" training exercises dealt with this scenario? No smoke grenades, no fancy snake cameras that could be stuck through a hole drilled in a door/wall, nothing?

  • Neckbeard_Prime [they/them,he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The federal officers had driven up from the Mexican border, one official said. The official said it was not clear to the federal agents why their team was needed, and why the local SWAT team did not respond.

    Too busy posing for promotional photos, I guess

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Fucking hell. So they waited for the tactical epic border guards like 10 miles away to arrive?

        • Shoegazer [he/him]
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          edit-2
          2 years ago

          There’s no fucking way the cops didn’t kill the kids and were too scared that the parents and feds to find out

          • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Obviously we don't know for sure but it's chilling that this is absolutely the most logical answer given what we know about the trigger happy ineptitude followed by total disregard of anything but ass covering by US police departments.

  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    :biden-troll: Which is why I'm proud to pass this bipartisan legislation to give them even more funding to train them to handle these situations better

  • Parzivus [any]
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    2 years ago

    So if the cops followed the shooter in two minutes afterwards and didn't announce him dead for over an hour, this is totally a cover-up or some shit, right?

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      edit-2
      2 years ago

      I’m quite convinced this is the case. More cops arrived later and prevented the parents from entering the school. The off part is that they didn’t prevent them from entering the perimeter which is pretty dangerous if the shooter was still alive since he could just shoot out the windows into the crowd.

      I don’t recall the parents’ video containing any gunshots so I’m curious if the shooter was even alive at that point. And the cops were mostly facing the parents ready to subdue them rather than facing the school in case the shooter popped up.

      Did any of the people in the classroom survived? The only way to get the truth is to hear their story. But I’m afraid that the pigs may have intimidated them.

      • Parzivus [any]
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        2 years ago

        There was at least one girl that lived by playing dead, but getting kids like her to testify anytime soon would be cruel

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      edit-2
      2 years ago

      Remember when there was a mass shooting in Nova Scotia and the shooter withdrew several hundred thousand dollars at a bank exclusively for the police to use to pay informants?

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Dorner should have lived to become a spectre haunting police. Every single pig should live with the sense of terror and helplessness they force onto society.

    • Quimby [any, any]
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      2 years ago

      it would be pretty cool to just see people start putting :dorner: up all over town. posters, billboards, bumpers stickers... it'll never happen. but man... I'd love to see cops drive through a neighborhood just plastered with Dorner's face and no text needed to make the message clear.

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    edit-2
    2 years ago

    11:35 - 3 cops enter the school through the open door. 4 more cops follow them [7 total]. 2 cops received ‘grazing wounds’ through the closed classroom door

    What absolute fucking soft cowards

    • OneBillionRubyWasps [he/him,comrade/them]
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      edit-2
      2 years ago

      Running multiple groups of bulky dumbasses through the same exposed door one after the other during a shootout? Fucking tactical genuises over here

  • Hohsia [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Like every other tragic event in US history, we'll never know the truth and people asking questions about the shaky MSM narrative will be cast aside as conspiracy theorists

  • D61 [any]
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    2 years ago

    58 total magazines brought by the shooter 1657 rounds were purchased by the shooter

    Random thing that popped into my head as I read this...

    My combat load when I was deployed to Iraq was 210 rounds of 5.56 as an equipment operator (driver/shitty mechanic) with an M4 carbine. That's six magazines in my equipment vest and one mag in my carbine.

      • Shoegazer [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        A witness said he first fired at two people at a nearby funeral home, both of whom escaped uninjured. He then dropped a black bag with ammunition inside and ventured further into the school.

    • Quimby [any, any]
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      2 years ago

      sounds like he had a lot of money. or at least, spent a lot of money. daniel defense ar, and that much ammunition, plus body armor and whatever else..

  • shiteyes2 [any]
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    edit-2
    2 years ago

    Hexbear I love you but these truth bombs are too much. Fuck this as hard as possible

    This is some Moloch shit and I can't bear looking at it anymore

      • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        If my calculations are correct, that's almost 45 lbs of just ammunition alone. Fuck if I know how much 58 magazines weight but there is almost certainly no way he was carrying all of that at once

    • OperationOgre [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      I think it's feasible that someone could buy all of this on a credit card with a $5,000 limit with no intention of ever paying it off.

        • Shoegazer [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          The first year I got my CC I only got like $800. Then a few months later $1000. Then about a year later I got $1,200. I think I’m sitting on $1,800 in credit.

        • OperationOgre [he/him, they/them]
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          edit-2
          2 years ago

          In my state buying a gun is as simple has handing some dude a wad of cash during a Craigslist sale, but I don't know how they do things in Texas. And yeah it might be hard for an 18 year old to get a $5k limit right off the bat, but it seems doable to me.

          I'm not trying to write off the possibility that he was given funding by someone, but I do think it's awfully easy for people in the US to get credit and guns at 18.

        • Shoegazer [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I’ve seen one shop require explicitly that the billing information and shipping information are the same. I never tested it so I can’t say for sure. In person though, I don’t think most LGS will care as long as they get paid and your background check is clean.

  • Hohsia [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    58 total magazines brought by the shooter 1657 rounds were purchased by the shooter

    Something's not adding up

    • usa_suxxx [they/them]
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      edit-2
      2 years ago

      1657 rounds were purchased by the shooter

      $1,870 Daniel Defense Rifle

      $ 450 Cheap Second AR assumption

      $ 392 58 Cheap Magazines minus 2 - 392 = 56*7 Rifles probably comes with 1 magazine

      $ 828.50 1,657 Rounds at .50 Lower than current cheapest round on Lucky Gunner

      $ 3540.50 without tax $ 3761.78 with Texas Tax at 6.25%

      I am no on the deep end. This is gladio shit.

      edit:

      Adding info on EOTech Sight: Cheapest model available is at $659.00

      $4,109.50 New Total Without Tax

      $4,366.34 Total With Tax

      https://english.elpais.com/usa/2022-05-25/who-was-salvador-ramos-the-young-man-who-sowed-terror-in-a-texas-school-shooting.html

      • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        What confuses me is wasn't this kid more or less financially destitute working at a restaurant for what I would believe to be minimum wage? Was this all run up on credit then?

        • Shoegazer [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I doubt it was his card. It must’ve been his grandmother’s card. But that should be easy to track down. In fact that should be the easiest thing to uncover. But the fact we don’t have that information right now is setting off my EMF meter.

        • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Was this all run up on credit then?

          Doesn't seem that crazy if it was his intent to do a mass shooting (i.e. this was planned to an extent). Not like he'd be paying it back.

          • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            I feel like a credit card company SHOULD have some automatic alerts pop off if they see someone drop $3,000 on ammunition in one day but they probably do and were certainly just ignored

              • cawsby [he/him]
                hexagon
                ·
                2 years ago

                Cash advance on a card for someone who is 18 would be like $750 tops with maybe $5-6k credit.

                This guy bought on credit.

            • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              It's probably just because people often buy shittons of ammo at a time. The fact that it was a kid who shouldn't have that kind of money to spare definitely raises red flags, but that's the kind of thing I can absolutely see automated systems and bureaucratic hierarchies just missing.

              • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Definitely something that should be questioned: Why isn't someone putting themselves in a life ruining amount of debt for ammo flagged?

                • Quimby [any, any]
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                  2 years ago

                  well, you see, capitalism wants you to do exactly that, all the time. so they aren't going to flag something that is a "successful" outcome.

      • Hohsia [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Not familiar with gun culture, does buying almost 2000 fucking rounds at once not raise suspicions?

        • Shoegazer [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          2000 rounds will last you like 3 months if you shoot 200 rounds every week. Most shops will sell a case of 1000 rounds at a time

        • usa_suxxx [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          I can't find any article saying he bought it all at once. I saw an article saying he bought 375 at once. That's not a major number. Like if it were some old rich guy, 2000 is not that big a deal. There's ammo hoarders. People hate them.

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      edit-2
      2 years ago

      This seems about right. He had two rifles and a pistol I think. Assuming he had 30 round mags for the rifles, that would total 55 magazines. The remaining 3 could’ve been for his pistol. He ditched one of the rifles in the car I think so most of the magazines were probably in the car when he went into the school