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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Yesterday's discussion post.


  • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
    hexagon
    ·
    3 years ago

    With 100 Million Refugees, the Migrant Crisis Has Barely Begun Bloomberg

    For the first time ever, more than 100 million people worldwide have been “forcibly displaced,” in the jargon of the UNHCR, the refugee agency of the United Nations. Millions of Ukrainian women and children have fled from Russia’s war of aggression in just the past three months. Millions more — often less conspicuous in the Western media — have run from violence in places like Ethiopia, Burkina Faso, Myanmar, Afghanistan or the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

    Both the numbers and the suffering are about to get worse. Also owing to the Russian attack on Ukraine — a “bread basket” that now can’t export its wheat and other staples — a global food crisis is imminent. Most people in Western countries will feel it as a painful rise in prices. But those who are already hungry — in Africa, the Middle East and elsewhere — will face starvation.

    Margaritis Schinas, the European Union’s commissioner in charge of migration, told Bloomberg that he’s expecting another refugee crisis. In this one, people will be coming in dinghies across the Mediterranean, rather than on trains through Ukraine and Poland. It’ll be “more messy,” Schinas reckons. As if all those other crises hadn’t been messy enough.

    Part of human nature is to distinguish between in-groups and out-groups, and to show the ins more empathy than the outs. Even Benjamin Franklin, ordinarily an open-minded type, looked askance at German and other non-English immigrants, whom he considered “swarthy” and suspect.

    That might explain the about-turn in Polish policies and attitudes between the 2015 crisis and this year’s. Back then, the refugees were dark-skinned Muslims, and Warsaw slammed its borders shut. Now they’re fellow Christians and Slavs, and Poland has warmly welcomed more than half of the 6.7 million Ukrainians who’ve fled abroad.

    Poland is also getting tired of Ukrainian refugees at this point.

    ...

    The biggest refugee crisis in history is still ahead of us. War, famine and plague will not only stay around, but spread and become worse, because of climate change. What will that do to our societies, and to us as individuals?

    There are no easy answers. Speaking for most Germans in 2015, the country’s president at the time, Joachim Gauck, expressed the dilemma well: “We want to help. We are big-hearted. But our means are finite.” It’ll be important to keep both parts of that sentiment in mind — the magnanimity and the limits. But when in doubt, we should heed Leviticus, and keep our hearts big.

    I'm not sure if you get to support your country and bloc committing a global campaign of genocide and terror and destabilizing regime change, and pumping pollution into the atmosphere until the asphalt on the equator starts melting, then daintily skip off and go "We need to maintain our compassion in the face of human crises. We were all refugees and immigrants once!" The West caused the crises we're seeing today.

    • Ursus_Hexagonus [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      I find it interesting how commonplace the term "Russia's war of aggression" has become. What other wars have been called "X's war of aggression in Y" rather than "the war in Y"?

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
        ·
        3 years ago

        The war of northern aggression :angrels: <-(trying to find a good Engels emoji to reference the confederate Engels meme)

      • SoyViking [he/him]
        ·
        edit-2
        3 years ago

        This war has led to some really annoying linguistic virtue signalling on both sides. In westoid discourse the invasion is always "unprovoked" and "unjustified" and Crimea is always prefixed with "the illegally annexed peninsula". In Ukraine Russia is not just Russia but "Russia (aggressor country and terrorist)".

        Meanwhile in Russian media Meta, the company behind Facebook, is always prefixed with "(banned in the Russian Federation for extremism)"

        All of these performative attempts to constantly underline how evil your enemies are and how just your own cause is are excruciatingly tedious and annoying to read, like a written version of a popup ad.

        • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Facebook should be banned for extremism, it promotes killing Russians and has enabled multiple genocides

          • SoyViking [he/him]
            ·
            3 years ago

            I don't disagree. I just don't need to hear that it's banned in Russia every time it's mentioned.

            • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
              ·
              3 years ago

              Well one sides verbal tics correspond to reality (Facebook IS an extremist organization that promotes hate) whereas the other continue to lie off its ass and ignore context (this is not a Russian war of aggression, neither side has labeled it a war and the aggression was done by NATO in the 2014 coup and attacks on Donbas)

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Every war is like this. To get people to kill each other for rich men's geopolitical games you have to dehumanize the enemy as absolutely as possible.

      • luther7718 [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Pretty much every war is called "X's war of aggression" by the side being aggressed upon

      • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
        ·
        3 years ago

        The North’s War of Aggression

        They are repeating their Lost Cause confederate apologism in a new form