• budoguytenkaichi [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I thought most estimates were saying we wouldn't have a vaccine til', like, September of next year?

    I don't trust like that, especially if it was made by the U.S.

    They have every reason to fart out a completely unsatisfactory "vaccine" to trick people into thinking that everything's fine when it still totally isn't.

  • thefunkycomitatus [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I wouldn't take a vaccine made by the country who spent the pandemic pretending it wasn't real. The only bad part is thinking a vaccine coming out Oct 31 would affect the election significantly. People will have already voted by mail or early in-person.

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          Cuba, a nation economically besieged by practically the entire world, continuing to prove that "innovation is driven by capitalism" is complete bullshit.

          • sexywheat [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            Last I was in Cuba was January 2017. It was always a place you could go to and know that you would never run into any Americans, but of course this was during the short window of time of Obama's easing of travel restrictions. I ran into some yankees at the bar in the hotel I was staying and at subsequently engaged in an enraging debate about how the private sector, free market and profit motive is the best and most perfect source of innovation because it rewards hard work etc etc. No matter how many examples I gave of Cuba's exceptional health care and medical innovations (like being the first country to successfully eliminate mother to child transmission of HIV) or even India's mass production of generic pharmaceuticals (as opposed to expensive name brand drugs that are identical in everything but price) he just wouldn't listen or budge.

            Free market economics is a cult.

            • Nakoichi [they/them]
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              4 years ago

              A death cult even, those people are going to get us all killed.

    • kelptea [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      exactly. for months i imagined myself first in line for a vaccine but i just cannot trust this country at all. and will (legitimate) hesitation now, mean that further down the line no-one will take the effective stuff? will this ever end. god what a mess

    • notthenameiwant [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      No, the CDC had anyone decent at the top quit. The new exec's are pushing this through without a phase 3 trial, which is the same shit we accused Russia of. If you can, please wait on this for at least a month or two.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        4 years ago

        The rush job is going to destroy faith in the medical system and dump gasoline on anti-vax hysteria.

    • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      No. Ignoring obvious, valid concerns for the sake of owning the Dems is something that shows up in posts here from time to time. People are rightfully angry at the Dems but sometimes those people let that get the better of them.

  • threshold [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    No, I fully agree with the guy. I don't trust a rushed-out regulation free vaccine. It's going to be pure garbage.

    • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Trump out there bragging about all the strings he pulled to get it out the door so fast... ya no thanks homie. I'll just continue to shack up an extra month or two while I wait for the (slightly more) sane rest of the world to reach their solution.

      • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        And then we'll ban the Chinese version for reasons.

        • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          "Folks, CHYNA is trying to chip your little babies! They take the chip, and they put it in your babies! Very smart people are saying this, saying Chyna is putting teeny-weeny microchips in the children. NOT good."

    • lvysaur [he/him]
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      4 years ago
      • most rushed vaccine in human history
      • coincidentally comes out right before election
      • gov has basically been purposefully trying to kill Black people with the virus
      • gov has literally deliberately infected POC in Latin America under the guise of vaccines
      • Tuskegee syphilis experiments and much worse

      yeah we're all white women on this day

  • PresterJohnBrown [any]
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    4 years ago

    Uh, I'm on their side. A vaccine just before the election sounds like some bullshit. The newest covid tzar basically plans on "herd immunity" aka "we're not doing a fucking thing about this", if they could dump a bunch of expired vaccines to act like placebos to get people to go back to work, they probably would.

  • gayhobbes [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If you think the American vaccine is going to be anything other than Trump’s vast stores of Ivanka’s piss, you’re wrong.

  • SexPorner69 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    It's not wrong to be dubious about a vaccine developed in 9 months instead of the usual, what, 5 years? If you have pre-existing conditions it's still the best option, otherwise you might as well wait until long-term effects are fully investigated.

    That said Blue MAGA Brain is ridiculous, I'm really not sure what this guy is implying and I don't wanna know.

    • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I’m really not sure what this guy is implying and I don’t wanna know.

      It's a joke implying basically exactly what you just stated explicitly.

  • Nothing44 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I mean, I'm no anti-vaxxer, but if I had grown up under the American medical establishment, I bloody well might have been. My country has done some real nasty shit to people in the name of medical science, and public health, but at least it isn't nearly as openly antagonistic and devious as what Americans have to deal with.

    Makes it real hard to trust them.