https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/v7uon8/the_gas_pump_sticker_retaliation_has_begun/

Gas is more expensive under Biden. It doesn't really matter if it's his fault or not. It doesn't matter that it was cheaper under Trump who was a piece of shit. People just see higher gas prices and they're mad. Especially the people who don't know what a wojak is. Gas prices are demonstrably high and clearly hurting people. Yes, chuds take advantage of this and put stickers on gas pumps. But they're not stupid for thinking gas prices are higher under Biden. They are. Calling anyone who blames Biden for higher gas prices stupid isn't going to win them over. Especially with your online-exclusive meme.

If you're a real Democrat shill the better response would be to make Putin "I did that" stickers. But instead it's just go straight for the "If you don't like my guy you're actually brain damaged in a literal way."

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Facts are optional and only used when convenient.

      Saying that disruptive entrepreneur innovator techbros will solve climate change any day now is laughably far from factual.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    Telling an impoverished and neglected people that they aren't smart enough to be in the wine cave will really win them over, which is the goal of :liberalism: in general: to cede anything even vaguely leftist to chuds but also mock chuds and be :surprised-pika: about the outcome.

  • amber2 [she/her,they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I always thought it would be funny to have apolitical stickers with like an anime girl or jerma saying "I did this!"

    Not as a political statement I just think it would be funny

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Wow libs are really bad at this.

    I guess putting a picture of porky saying "I did that" would undermine their allegiance to capital

  • HarryLime [any]
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    2 years ago

    Gas is expensive in large part because of Biden's sanctions on Russia

    • Opposition [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      The secret is that high gas prices will hurt in the short term but bring long term gains. Americans will stop driving so much and polluting the environment. Everyone will envy electric car owners. Electric cars powered by solar is the future, and the sooner we get there, the better. Even if it hurts the chuds.

      • comi [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Public transit, walkable cities, and small electrobikes is the future, doesn’t seem to be actively happening tho.

        • Opposition [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          small electrobikes

          Those things don't work if it's raining, cold, snowing, and they're dangerous if it's windy too. I almost got blown off one on a windy bridge.

          • comi [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            You realize that’s a bridge construction problem, not immutable fact of existence. Electro bikes also weigh 50 pounds instead of 3000, mine less minerals, and waste less energy.

            As for snowing - obviously inhospitable cities should deal with public transit.

            • Opposition [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              Windy days happen on places other than bridges. And to heck with snow, just try to ride one in the rain. It sucks. It's doable but generally you get wet and slick pavement is no walk in the park either. Cold temperatures totally suck too. It's already cold, add a 25mph wind in your face and suddenly it's arctic.

              • comi [he/him]
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                I mean you could say it about everything. Bike things are good, because they force shorter distances for everything - if some place of interest is 5 km away - it’s feasibly reachable by foot, if everything is 30 km away - you are fucked. It follows that building with focus on walkability, bikes and density is all the same thing and same goal. Exchanging cars for cars will reproduce same garbage as it currently is. Electric bike is just an example for especially hilly places

                • somebitch1 [she/her]
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                  2 years ago

                  The world as we know it was built on cheap fossil fuels. Those material conditions will probably never be replicated even because fossil fuels are so malleable. Natural gas could be converted to fertilizer and oil to the best performing fuels still known to man and plastic so cheap they are dominated the oceans. People have to start thinking about the over a billion engines that will have to be replaced. The land use for renewables or the limited sites available for fission/fusion cooling will never sustainably replicate this kind of energy without risking mass extinction by industrializing the whole planet.

                  We really need to be brave an re-imagine the world. It will be very unpopular but if we want to phase out fossil fuels then people and industry are going to have migrate to become rail adjacent in really dense cities designed to stay cool. This is what will separate the willing from the libs.

  • Metalorg [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    In the last couple of years in America first the rents doubled, then the price of goods doubled, it makes sense if gas doubles. Unfortunately wages have only gone from $10 to $15.

    • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      It was something that was inevitable under capitalism, and as Biden is a capitalist shill then yes you could say its his fault.

      • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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        2 years ago

        Biden started Ukraine. It's directly his fault. He was involved under Obama and made it worse as president.

        Are you under the assumption that this is just profit driven greed?

        • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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          Biden is responsible, but it would be the same if the GOP won. They all answer to the same corporate and Imperial interests at the end of the day.

          Are you under the assumption that this is just profit driven greed?

          It's a capitalist country under the thumb of a corporate oligarchy, of course everything they do is for the benefit the donor class.

          • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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            2 years ago

            If trump won. This war most likely would not be happening. You would be seeing the further decay of NATO as trump was not a fan.

            This is out side of the empire to control and will have negative effects on the imperial core. The global supply chain of oil based products is going through a massive shift and it's leaving the west with not enough refinery power to absorb the loss of Russias huge petro product exports. This most likely would not have happened with out the Biden created Ukrainian war.

            This is all biden's fault. At the beginning of his term it was just global COVID supply constraints, and you could laugh at the chud stickers. Its now been made way worse by forcing Russia into a corner and making them invade Ukraine.

            The articles are already coming but you will be hearing more about demand destruction in the coming weeks. Which is the economic term for people aren't buying shit even fuel cuz it's too high. This will lead to all sectors of the capitalist economy to see losses.

            This is not a win for capitalist. It was a huge miscalculation by a bunch of out of touch politicans. Yeah the mic will make money for a bit. But the amount of articles coming out about how over priced and useless American tech is will reveberate through loss of sales in the coming years.

            At least that's how i see it.

            • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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              2 years ago

              This is a floundering Capital, trying to expand NATO and control more global resources to extract capital from. You could argue Trump may have done things slightly differently but he's still beholden to the same system at the end of the day. It wouldn't be hard for the GOP to convince him that stirring shit with Russia the same way he blamed China for COVID would make him popular.

            • TheWhiteVisitation [des/pair]
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              2 years ago

              This is out side of the empire to control and will have negative effects on the imperial core. The global supply chain of oil based products is going through a massive shift and it’s leaving the west with not enough refinery power to absorb the loss of Russias huge petro product exports. This most likely would not have happened with out the Biden created Ukrainian war.

              You know Amerika is a net producer of oil, right? Why do you think the Rethugs have been all about Iran and Venezeula sanctions? High oil prices will definitely help out oil industry profits in the short and intermediate term. Maybe long-term people down size their cars a bit and adjust their lifestyles - which is a, uh, net positive for humanity.

              • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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                2 years ago

                So are we doing the whole high energy prices is actually good for poor people argument?

                Net producer doesn't really mean anything. We are a producer. The largest in the world

                We barely export more than we import. https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=49596 this site is pretty simple and up to date of you actually want to get into the weeds of oil.

                Its basically a wash. It's just us selling our oil to markets where it goes for more where as it we import stuff that is cheaper to refine here or just buy those refined products and bring them to market here. It doesn't mean what people think it means. It doesn't mean we have so much that we can export it. It just means that our production has allowed us to export more than we import. That's it. It's not some grand statement about our self sufficiency in natural resources.

                Should the whole system be nationalized? Yes. Should it be price controlled? Yes. Should we be moving off it? Yeah decades ago.

                Is capitalism to blame? Always. But it's the system we are forced into. So understanding it allows one to point out the ridiculousness of it. And if you use it properly you will get chuds to say that they think it should be nationalized but they don't actually know that's what they want till you tell them that's what they are asking for. And usually the 😳 look they give you is worth the effort

                  • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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                    2 years ago

                    The only people being forced to use less energy are poor global North people that already use a fraction of the energy that the rich do. And they aren't going to adjust their behaviors

                    So what you are saying is pain for poor global North people is overall good?

                    Also the global North. You mean the west right? You mean europe and America exclusively right? Cuz around 90% of the world population lives in the northern hemisphere.

                          • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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                            2 years ago

                            If you have to explain it. It's not a good descriptor of what your are trying to convey. I just looked over it. And it includes all of Europe and russia. Many of those places are poor as shit also.

                              • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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                                2 years ago

                                1st and 3rd is racist and long abandoned

                                Developed and undeveloped is not really much better.

                                It's the west that had exploited the world.

                                Anyways.

                                But I'm glade you are defining which poor people you think are worth carying about.

                                  • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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                                    High gas prices and reduced driving doesn't matter when a large war was started to create that less driving.

                                    Its a net negative We have oil trading hands several times from russia to India to europe to get past sanctions. Upping the already ridiculous carbon foot print of that sector to new levels.

                                    Wish i could share that optimism that Americans driving less will make a dent when you have a whole system being realigned and a large modern war going on involving the movement of large mechanized war machines that guzzle diesel and have no emissions. Along with all the carbon from the explosions.

                                    I'm not one to get off on poor people suffering.

            • Sharon [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              All the losses lead to liquidation of assets that the truly wealthy can snap up and further consolidate capital. Ever crisis has it's winners even if it's the richer guy eating the rich guy's lunch

  • Ploumeister [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    This is the liberal direct action we have all waited for, a United peoples front of meme posting on gas pumps. 2024 will not just be fought at the ballot box but the gas lines

  • a_fanonist_hexagon [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    bro literally yes he started this fucking war and the sanctions and is continuing to support the government that mined the ports

      • a_fanonist_hexagon [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah idk about the oil specifically but Ukraine is complaining about not being able to get their wheat out of ports which is fucking up worldwide prices. The thing is that they mined their own ports to keep Russian ships out (and they did such a shitty job that Turkey complained of mines drifting into their waters), and now it's being moved to Russia-controlled ports instead

    • Asa_the_Red [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      No one is driving less in America, its America; all we do is drive.

      All this does is make it harder for poor people to get to work.

        • Asa_the_Red [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Americans should do a lot of things but doing things is something we're exceptionally bad at

          • CommunistBear [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            But doing things opens us up to beatings and jail. We are in a police state, it's gonna take some serious things to get a critical mass of people desperate enough to not care about that. Once there's enough people jobless and homeless with nothing to lose, that's when the cool zone starts. But until then, people will cling to whatever piece of driftwood they have to try to survive.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I'm honestly here for gas prices staying up and everyone driving less.

      • Spongebobsquarejuche [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Totally good thing we invested in public transit. Idk at the very least trump would act like he gave a fuck. Biden is trying to complain to the president.

    • Kanna [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      But that's not going to help people who can't take public transit and their lives (job commute) are already based around driving a good distance everyday

    • mr_world [they/them]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      You can definitely win over people who think k gas prices are too high and that it's Biden's fault. Just not with anything Democrats are actually willing to do. I'm not talking about chuds. More than chuds think this is a problem. This petty retaliation only insults them.