From this dumpster fire of a thread https://www.reddit.com/r/economy/comments/vbcmxu/karl_marx_was_right_workers_are_systematically

  • Flaps [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    First comment already talking about some magical 'hybrid' of capitalism and socialism. Brother in christ, social democracy with private property is still capitalism ye dingus. Fuck I'm so tired of all these asshats having absolutely no understanding of what they're talking about yet somehow delude themselves inton thinking they have some kind of deep understanding of socialism. Deep enough that they think they don't have to read any of the literature that has been written on the subject for 150+ years

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      who needs nuance and understanding when you can pretend to be wise and call everyone wrong without justifying your reasoning

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Huh, they're trying to find some "third position" that proposes elements of capitalism and socialism while being neither? I wonder what that's called.

    • ides_of_Merch [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      they have some kind of deep understanding of socialism

      they don’t have to read any of the literature that has been written on the subject for 150+ years

      economics is basically just a modern Gnostic mystic cult

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Aw shoot! I got fascism-apologia in my wholesome anti-communism again! Why does this keep happening?

  • UlyssesT
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    18 days ago

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    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Or Chile or Saudi Arabia or South Korea or Brazil or Columbia or...

      Authoritarianism is when Leftism. Genocide is when Stalin's Big Spoon.

  • ides_of_Merch [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    fascism was better for people

    "we're all just humans, at the end of the day haha, no need for such divisive rhetoric about class war" :epstein:

  • Teekeeus
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    27 days ago

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  • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    The Jakarta Method cemented in my mind that Communists vs Nazis is the ultimate expression of the class war. While the Nazis fight as foot soldiers for the rich, the Communists fight for each other. And that's fucking beautiful.

    Also. the USA is evil.

      • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        True, but we'll be here all day if I've gotta list everyone that fights as foot soldiers for the rich, comrade.

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        liberals debate, shitpost, updoot and vote for the rich, but i'd say they leave the whole death squad business to the nazis whenever possible.

      • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        It's a rough read, but definitely a necessity. If you've been paying attention, all the stuff that's been driving you crazy in politics, you'll see rooted in the stories it tells.

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Breaking: Stupid forum full of stupid people has bad take

    Btw, Peron was a OG SocDem (moderate wing of fascism) and only comrades can criticize his fascist ass on my watch

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Given the number of Jacobin articles on the front page, I doubt you have to imagine that hard.

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Liberals hate socialists more than they hate fascists

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    peron was a guy with spaghetti for brains not a Pinochet

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Also, Chile still suffers from the austerity torture imposed by Pinoshits, the only people who have it good there are those who've helped norteamericanos plunder their homeland. Similar things can be said for Spain, which always was one of the least developed countries in western Europe.

      • star_wraith [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        US American Libertarians have this weird obsession with Chile. They think it's some ultimate proof that capitalism works and is better than socialism. I had an economics professor who brought up Chile in the first 10 minutes of the first class of his introductory macroeconomics course and wouldn't shut the fuck up about it for the next four years.

        I think that's part of the reason I find myself really interested in Chile and love learning more about it from my Chilean comrades here. Because it's like, I was taught that Chile was capitalism's Greatest Champion. The acme of capitalism's success. So to learn that (and this is an oversimplification) Pinochet simply juiced GDP by allowing foreign investors to plunder the country, which got Chilean at the top rich but brought misery to the working class, was part of what really rid me of the last capitalist brainworms I had.

      • BeamBrain [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Also, Chile still suffers from the austerity torture imposed by Pinoshits

        No no you see, when capitalism kills people through privatization and austerity, that's just The Way Things Are, and anyway it was probably their fault for being stupid and lazy

  • wombat [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    the right-wing coups of 1989 were an unmitigated disaster for the world

  • ElChango [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Any time I see a poster named "Mysterious-Ad987389743" or "Complacent-Ad-p03843098" or "TotallyNotARandomlyGeneratedCIAUsername0u8304830982" I just immediately downvote and discard

    And yet they always wind up at the top of the comments. I know people are stupid, but they can't be this fucking stupid. Just blatant astroturfing at this point, not even trying to hide it