• Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    If one system has not found a way to "escape poverty" and another system has found a way to do so... It is by definition, progress.

    Claiming otherwise is nonsensical. Literally cope.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      China is a Flawed System because it doesn't get you the kind of explosive economic growth that JP Morgan's Etherium division can bring in.

      Without Western Capitalism, you'll never get your hands on these high value Apes.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      They don't measure progress by how the poors are doing. They measure it by the wacky publicly-funded adventures of billionaires. :lord-bezos-amused:

  • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    the SUBcontinent will have pivoted

    lmao, just blatantly but also unwittingly admitting that the entire "continent" "subcontinent" thing is peak :lmayo: cope

    Aside from the europe/asia bullshit which everyone already knows about, americans REGULARLY refer to US+Canada, but MINUS Mexico, as "North America"

    The landmass of Latin America though, which is 300,000 sqmi larger (millions larger if you discount desert and tundra), is somehow a "sub"continent according to them

    From here on out I'm just gonna refer to North America (and Europe for obvious reasons) as "subcontinents". When questioned why, I'll say because it's smaller when Mexico is excluded. Mexico is not part of North America. Europe is just northwest Asia LARPing as something else.

  • git [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    “The North American gringo has become irrelevant” should be one of the taglines for this site.

  • Tervell [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    a sense among emerging young leaders that the flawed Chinese model offers a plausible idea of progress

    I WONDER WHY THAT MIGHT BE?! Could it be that all actual evidence points to it being a massively successful model that has lifted millions out of poverty, while western neoliberalism keeps stumbling head-first into crisis after crisis? They sense a "plausible idea of progress" because THAT'S THE FUCKING REALITY

    • invo_rt [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      As opposed to the US type of progress where its citizens are impoverished and have no healthcare, but a new iphone comes out every year

      • redthebaron [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        also, oh no you guys like education for your children, WHY DON'T YOU LISTEN TO THE US, THE COUNTRY WHERE YOU HEAR ABOUT KIDS JUST GETTING MOWED DOWN IN SCHOOLS EVERY SO OFTEN and not because it doesn't happen always but because it is so common that even us from outside will just hear about the worst ones that get media attention

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      "We will never know what would compell the Latin mind to try a new approach instead of sticking dogmatically to the same ideology that has failed them for a century. However, phrenologically speaking..."

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    2 years ago

    bossiness

    If a Western nation exhibits social and economic progress, it is said to "possess leadership skills".

    If a nation in the Global South exhibits social and economic progress, it is said to be "bossy".

  • FreakingSpy [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Xi pls come to Brazil

    and bring the Belt and Road Initiative, thanks

  • flowernet [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    World's most spoken Language 🤝 World's 2nd most spoken language.

    such a partnership would easily be one of the most important accomplishments equally for either side, if successful.

  • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    a sense among emerging young leaders that the flawed Chinese models offers a plausible idea of progress

    Ah yes, the Chinese model for Latin America is clearly flawed, unlike the American model they've been using since 1900 where their leaders get couped and/or murdered the second they work against extractionist business interests

      • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        wait, right, all the Banana republics were mostly early 20th century and the like. Whenever I think of "Latin American Coup" my mind immediately goes to the CIA and I forgot there was still fuckery even before that

  • wombat [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

  • Shoegazer [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Is the pink tide even favoring China? Or is it like the third world during the Cold War, where most of the countries preferred socialism but didn’t care for the US or USSR (although they had sympathy for the USSR)

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          The war itself began as a war over very real security concerns but may become something else.

          I see it as puppets of imperialists fighting against aspiring imperialists. Russia is not strictly imperialist, at least comparatively to the western empire. But it is hard to deny that there are those actively pursuing it. Regardless of this I see them as an essential security partner to China and an essential front against the west that get critical support because their collapse would be very bad for socialist goals.

    • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Not really. Only El Salvador has switched its allegiance to the PRC. I'm not as sure about South America but some of them have been working with China for a while now.

      Edit: Panama apparently did it too during the Trump years but then cancelled five economic projects after Mike Pompeo visited him. The president wasn't even leftist. He was part of the right-wing nationalist party.

  • Ideology [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    the flawed Chinese model

    The Chad American model :chad: