The whole phenomenon of Internet dipshits rubbernecking at Chris-Chan's life is one of the most depressing things in the history of online culture. There are probably kids into this pointless spectacle today who were born after the "saga" (fuck off) started.

  • Sickos [they/them, it/its]
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    2 years ago

    I am very blessed to have no idea what this means, and I thought I was terminally online.

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Bored teenagers discover weird person with autism who posts cringe things online. Said teenagers quickly notice said person is very easy to troll and egg on to do embarrassing things online and offline.

      Said trolling and egging on continues for 15 years and every bit of it is documented by people (read: assholes) who consider themselves scholars of the subject

    • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Chris chan has been around for almost 20 years and likely has a cornucopia of mental conditions which the people who ruin her life as a personal hobby enjoy preying on. She's "really" into Sonic and has written extensive fan fictions about her own characters, and through various bad actors feeding into her grand delusions convinced her these characters existed in another dimension.

      • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        The whole thing also spawned an entire subculture of sociopaths looking for new "cringe" people to harrass

        • Steve2 [any]
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          2 years ago

          That's where kiwifarms comes out of of anyone's curious.

      • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Was the last BtB episode I listened to, seems like half of the airtime on any of Evan's podcasts is spent complaining about tankies anymore.

          • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            His spinoff "It Could Happen Here" that's largely hosted by a couple other people now regularly complain about tankies to the point I felt like I was just listening to posts from r/VaushV or r/tankiejerk.

            • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              It's kind of annoying to actually live in a world where tankies don't exist, politically speaking, but 99% of the ranty-complainyness targets them. I guess I should pass on that series then.

              • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                The first set of episodes where Evan's is narrating what societal collapse would like is fine. They changed the format to broader discussions after that and it was fine for a while until it became apparent Garrison spends a shit load of time on reddit.

                • Tiocfaidhcaisarla [he/him, comrade/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  I only listened to the first "season" where Evan's using real world experiences to talk about a collapse in the US. It was haunting, but good.

                  Saw later it was getting more episodes and I wondered what it'd even been be about, disaster porn? Seemed like just trying to get more money off what was apparently a successful project. Like forcing a sequel.

                  How the hell are tankies even part of the focus? Disagree with them, ok, but they're not a big force now ( 😞 ) so why bother and in a collapse scenario, you're just preemptively creating enemies on the left who will almost certainly be doing their damnedest to help the worst affected and organize resistance to the actual horrors outlined in the first episodes? Fuuuuuck off, at least wait to shit on them till we're in the shit and people have to contend with some tankie formation existing and building power.

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                1 year ago

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                • Shoegazer [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  There are no communists in China. They’re all brainwashed to say they’re communist. Only capitalists can voluntarily say they like capitalism

                • spectre [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  Xi has control of the party but there are millions of liberals nonetheless

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                    1 year ago

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                    • spectre [he/him]
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                      2 years ago

                      For sure, just being pedantic about the exact number lol

                • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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                  2 years ago

                  He literally is an employee of bellingcat, which gets its funding from NED (CIA cut-out for funding color revolutions and US-aligned NGOs)

                  He’s US state sponsored media. There should be a disclaimer on all his work that it is funded in whole or in part by the CIA.

                  • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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                    2 years ago

                    Yeah, but these people would tell scary stories about tankies while holding flashlights under their chins for free, unprompted

                    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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                      2 years ago

                      The synthetic left was created and is sustained by US funds. There are of course idiots who have no idea what is going on and follow along with the choir, but the conductors are paid

                        • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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                          2 years ago

                          It’s not meaningless, it speaks to the very real phenomena of US-friendly westoid leftism, filled with chauvinists and imperialists. Just because some cringe fringe weirdos used it doesn’t make it false

                            • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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                              2 years ago

                              Mate and Norton from Grayzone use it frequently

                              All of Breadtube is part of this synthetic left, not just the more egregious examples like Robert Fedvans and Voosh

                                • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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                                  2 years ago

                                  Mate is still at Grayzone and doing good work. Blumenthal is the one who “went off the deep end” allegedly, but this is overstated. He just has a different opinion than people here on Covid policies within the west (he never was against Chinese style lockdowns). He’s still more based than every breadtuber

                                    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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                                      2 years ago

                                      Norton is based and uses the term. As do people like Luna Oi, Hakim, Carl Zha, Caitlin Johnston, Moon of Alabama and pretty much every cool and good commentator on the left.

                                • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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                                  2 years ago

                                  To clarify I’m not saying that the entirety of breadtube is CIA funded (although there are prominent examples). I’m saying that the entirety of the loose ideological cultural grouping who self-identify as “breadtube” and move in those circles are part of the choir. They are almost all imperialists and somewhat anti-communist.

                                  Hbomberguy says he doesn’t support the USSR and supports a bombing campaign on DPRK. PhilosophyTube shits on actually existing socialism. Many of them repeat pro-Hong Kong protester narratives, or Uighur genocide narratives, or pro-Ukrainian narratives.

                • geikei [none/use name]
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                  2 years ago

                  They are confirmed feds https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1534536713812512770

  • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Bullying a mentally ill person who clearly needs help they arent getting, and making it a le epic meme. Nothing better crystallizes the cruelty of the internet spectacle

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    There are people who changed history whose lives aren't as documented as hers...

      • spring_rabbit [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Buckminster Fuller has her beat. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dymaxion_Chronofile

        Chris-Chan is the most documented person who has no good reason to be documented.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    like, chris chan is fucked, but it really is insane how much time and effort and brainspace trans people take up in these peoples heads. we're like .7% of the population if we're being generous, only a fraction of that are visible, and look at all the legislation and vitriol targeted against us

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I don't want to defend the Chris Chan harassers, but mocking Sonichu and general online bullying of Chris was a thing years before she came out as trans.

      Of course, her coming out as trans threw a bunch of gas on the fire because the people cyber bullying an autistic person also turned out to be transphobes :shocked-pikachu:

      • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah, she wasn't out for the majority of her "popularity".

        Internet dwellers have a long history of hating anyone who deviates from whatever they deem to be normal, see furries for the ur-example

          • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            Except instead of one or two shitheads who could be punished by the administration, or who you can get away from - it’s one million internet stalkers who will follow you for the rest of your life

        • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]M
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          2 years ago

          I just called out an old friend yesterday for his hatred of the furry community. Luckily he is reasonable, and when I said "it sounds like you're misunderstanding the community at large" they acquiesced and admitted that they most likely are.

          • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            It's just such a pointless thing to get mad about, like hating Justin Bieber or something.

            There's like a million gory flash animations on Youtube that are essentially just "what if the heckin' Space Marines did an Exterminatus on the furries"

            Real 13-year-old mindset

            • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]M
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              2 years ago

              His reasoning was "its gross to be sexually attracted to animals" and im just like "my brother in christ that is really not what its about here"

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It's a really thorough documentary at least. Chris-Chan is an important history to preserve because it's the most depraved example of parasocial relationships I can think of. By part 64 she's auctioning off possessions and making her obviously senile mother/victim say whatever Kiwifarms stalkers pay for to keep their mortgage funded. This story is the dark heart of the internet.

  • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    In 1000 years, Chris-Chan will be the most well attested 21st century person, with more known about their life than any other currently living person.

    • thirstywizard [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      This 100%. Think I saw some RU wiki say something like she's the most documented person in history thus far, and I damn believe it. Everything that could have went wrong in her life did. I personally know people that went into ABA, psych, neuro, etc that were heavily influenced by the lack of support for her various conditions, but you're not going to see that on admissions essays anytime soon (oh plz no, keep it to yourself 'saviors').

      When I was in the city there used to be this duo that liked to to cosplay as time travelers, that would dress up weird, one guy was always Colonel Sanders, and Chrischan was one of their favorite topics. They said she'd end up in a behavioral health facility of sorts, but this is America, our mentally ill almost always die of exposure in the streets regardless of how vulnerable, so I didn't believe a word they said after that.

      Anyway, I like what the old discord bot used to say, STFU about Chrischan.

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    2 years ago

    I met a traveller from an antique land,

    Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone

    Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,

    Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,

    And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,

    Tell that its sculptor well those passions read

    Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,

    The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;

    And on the pedestal, these words appear:

    Hey Guys, GenoSamuel2.1 Here

    Time to take another deep dive into CHRIS CHAN

    You can help me produce more of these amazing episodes

    If you Like, Comment, And Subscribe

    Nothing beside remains. Round the decay

    Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare

    The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    God damn. I went down the Chris-Chan rabbit hole about 20 years ago and can't believe it's still going strong. They really aren't ever going to leave him alone are they?