This person does not speak for the entire uncommitted movement. Many people participating will not be voting for Biden come November. And more importantly they won't be participating in any GotV campaigns for the general. There won't be any "heroic" GotV campaigns that carried Biden in 2020. I won't call it for Trump yet. He might not have any juice left in him either. But its going to be close.
If Biden wants my vote he can show he has the strength to twist Bibi's arm. The longer he takes the harder he better twist. His October surprise better be a No Fly Zone over Palestine, '67 borders. Obviously, he won't. But if we can pretend he will I can pretend I'll vote for him. Asking thousands of activists to not just vote for genocide but actively campaign for it is more futile than harassing Biden.
For me to vote Biden he'd have to catch up and pay me the $80,000 in stimulus checks he owes me. Oh, he'd also have to:
- Give Puerto Ricans the right to vote
- Legalize weed
- Forgive all student debt
- Move American troops out of Taiwan, the Baltic states, Germany, Poland, Jordan, Iraq, Somalia, South Korea, Japan, etc etc etc
- Launch a full scale invasion of Israel to liberate Palestine
- Summarily execute every legislator that has voted to criminalize trans people's existence
So, IDK, he better get cooking soon if he wants my vote.
Landlords will be left to face the Revolutionary Tenants' Army's justice.
Give Puerto Ricans the right to vote"Free Puerto Rico" is much better.
Otherwise good list, but, yeah, no way I'm voting for Biden and a pig. I didn't the first time and I'm sure as hell not doing it the second time.
Yeah absolutely, I just meant that it's literally impossible for me to vote otherwise lol
"Free Puerto Rico" is much better.
puertorican self-determination is the best. one of the problems is that there are three main choices: independent nation-state, 51st state, and status quo.
the political system is american enough that the votes on this topic have been between two options rather than some kind of ranked choice and have at various times been deliberately delegitimized by low turnout.
Thing is, independence has been systematically delegitimized as a valid option after years of censorship and state repression of pro-independence Puerto Ricans. Conducting a referendum in the island (especially if it doesn't include diaspora Puerto Ricans) to determine how everyone feels about sovereignty or statehood is a bit like if you asked Americans to vote on how they feel about FALGSC vs. free market capitalism.
That's not to diminish the importance of self determination, obviously at some point it's important that we actually choose what to do, but I just see quite a bit of idealistic posturing from well meaning leftists that don't know mainland Puerto Ricans and how much red scare-like propaganda has been ingrained here against independence. If you bring up independence in conversation with most median age voters, they'll say we'll end up like Cuba or Venezuela, that we'll all starve without our benevolent overlords, etc etc.
Another factor is that the option has just never actually been offered to us in earnest. No politician has ever honestly expected the referendums conducted recently to result in anything but statehood, and the first referendum was obviously expected to result in an overwhelming choice for the free associated state (it was conducted during a period where pro-independence organizers were rounded up and shot). What would even have to change for the issue to be brought up in good faith? The situation would already have to be reaching balkanization (i.e. Cool Zone) levels in the US for an earnest, honest-to-God choice to be offered to Puerto Rico to self determine. Some berniecrat actually wins the presidency and gives us the choice? We'd likely just get rolled back in the next term when mecha-Hitler is elected. It's just a very abstract situation to even picture, and I can't visualize a situation where Puerto Ricans would choose to federate as a state with a crumbling nation. If anything, what's more realistic is the US conducting a forceful annexation through some kind of judicial coup (which they already have set up a body of unelected overseers with the PROMESA act) if there's widespread unrest.
I won't be voting uncommitted in the general election. I'm voting for Afroman
My #1 trick for negotiations is to announce from the get go that I will agree to whatever terms the other party wants
They’re not even thinking in terms of negotiations, competition, or much less, conflict. It’s all about “raising awareness”, and loyalty to your team even when they’re doing poorly.
i guess it makes sense that blue team voters don't understand how negotiating works because no blue team politicians seem to know anything about anchoring or how to make an opening offer.
I have not voted for either faction of the corporate party for 50 years, won't start now.
Fine I'll commit myself to vote .... 
Jill Stein in the general...in Michigan...AGAIN 
Afaik the DNC said in open court that they're a private club and they can and will choose their candidate if the primaries pick the wrong candidate.
The Dems know that if their base vote for them while supporting a genocide then there is nothing they can do to make them not vote for them
Lol there is people saying the uncommited movement is a GOP plot
Damn, I haven't looked at Blahaj in a while, and it looks to be festering even more than I thought it would. Unironic "Drumpf" comments, holy shit.
Lol there is people saying the uncommited movement is a GOP plot
This was kind of inevitable. I'm surprised they said GOP and not Russia though, but give it maybe 3 months.
Next step: anybody who fails to vote for Biden will be monitored on suspicion of being a Kremlin agent
It's vital to protect our Freedom! We should also just make sure that Biden stays in power in perpetuity, to avoid future election fraud. Can't have election fraud without elections after all!
I'm surprised they said GOP and not Russia though, but give it maybe 3 months.
They're the same, obv
I used to work on a contract for a certain manager who, multiple times, admitted that Israel is committing genocide despite being any annoying centrist. Despite that, he still plans on voting for Biden lol.
Writing that makes me remember a story. We had a meeting at noon. Some of my coworkers were Muslim. After it finished, the manager asked us if we wanted anything from Starbucks cause he was grabbing lunch. One of the guys said “no, I’m never buying from them again.” The manager seemed confused and asked why, and he replied “they support Israel.” I chimed in and said “they’re enabling genocide.” The manager gives me the
face and says “well I’m still going to buy Starbucks.” Nobody said anything, and so the manager continued, “I mean, what am I supposed to do? Not buy it? What else am I supposed to drink? Like I’m sorry Israel is doing that but what am I supposed to do?” We didn’t say anything after either lolPeople are willing to pay a lot to not watch themselves fill 3/4 the cup with sugar and cream before adding the coffee
Do you live somewhere where literally no where else sells coffee? Or does he really need his double white chocolate caramel mocha?
You vote for Biden, you are genocide supporters giving a political mandate to a genocider. Simple as.
The only moral position is to not give genociders a mandate.
The intent is to send a message. The message is "we will vote for you no matter what, so no need to make any policy changes sir."
"The further right we move, the more of our base we alienate. Clearly this means we should move further right."
Ah I didn't know the CEO of the uncommitted movement was among us
Also even saying this got them called a fascist tankie in the comments because they can't bear the thought of anyone even slightly disrespecting genocide Joe in any context that matters outside of snarky memes
Punnet square: axis #1, do you think Israel is committing genocide in Gaza? axis #2, do you think Trump will literal end democracy in America?
For how much Democrats claim to love Democracy they do jack shit to build Democracy in the workplace.
Yeah I'm gonna have to parrot Felix here. I'm only going to vote for Biden if the Knesset is a smoking ruin and every member there is executed for war crimes on livestream in front of the entire world.
They can mald all they want. I'm voting Jill Stein because it'll be hilarious if she were to get a substantial portion of the vote in a swing state. You couldn't pay me to vote for Genocide Joe so I'm just going to use my vote to piss off people.
