https://nitter.net/ErinInTheMorn/status/1541930224417472512?t=tm7EseXZk3d2oLdxcStWVw&s=19

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    deeply rooted in our Nation's history and tradition

    wow, what a totally objective and not at all white supremacist legal rubric!

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      And as far as I know they just made it up out of whole cloth specifically for this set of rulings. No lawyer who wasn't an ideological fascist would seriously stand in court and argue that some vague "tradition" can overthrow a thousand years of common law precedent. It's beyond bonkers. it's blue and orange morality. It's starfish alien thinking.

    • blight [any]
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      2 years ago

      i thought that's why we're posting :side-eye-2:

  • ScotPilgrimVsTheLibs [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    "Muh twadishunz muh twadishunz!"

    Your traditions suck, your history of getting special treatment has spoiled you lot rotten. Everything crackers say about Jews is a projection.

  • armed_roomba [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    i thought everybody saying that the us was heading towards christofascism a few days ago was being alarmist

    :sadness-abysmal:

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      There's billionaire funded dark money groups explicitly set up to write right-wing legislation, appoing right wing AGs, appoint right wing judges. They weren't going to set up infrastructure to control every aspect of putting cases before the Supreme Court and having their side win, and then just not do that.

    • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      That’s understandable. I had a mental block for a while because I was imagining concentration camps. Not that the US is above camps. It just didn’t click for me. Then someone pointed out that the US has a deeper history of vigilante violence being excused by the law. The whole “it’s now legal to run over protesters with your car” laws popped into mind and it makes a lot more sense to me.

      The proud boys and the various right wing militias are already acting as the militant wing of the Republican Party in some areas. Many states are quickly approaching the point of making it illegal to be visibly trans in public. Police continue to do extrajudicial killings every day or two, but the media rarely covers them anymore. It’s suddenly acceptable for sitting senators to discuss the reinstatement of racial segregation by the courts. Slave patrols originally formed in response to non-slave states refusing to dedicate resources to returning escaped slaves and the Democrats response to red states rolling back the clocks by 100 years is “lol just move :4Head:” and hardening rights within the borders of blue states, which will inevitably lead back to a constitutional crisis. There are half a dozen right wing groups working towards calling a constitutional convention who have made astounding progress over the last couple years.

      It all adds up and I see pogroms in the next few years and mass graves within 10 if things continue as-is. They’re coming for contraception access. They’re coming for racial integration. They’re coming for the 14th amendment and for gay marriage and for gender protections and for expanded suffrage. They’re coming for social security. They’re coming for Medicaid. They’re coming for it all.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I was imagining concentration camps

        We have concentration camps for migrant workers and refugees crossing the border, and the US Prison System is basically an internal camp system. The Nazis didn't start out with extermination camps. They worked towards it incrementally for years.

        • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          For sure. I was just having trouble seeing how the immediate future tied into that build up on an intuitive level. It seemed like an awful present disjoint from an awful future. Seeing the continuity is making me feel like I’m finally feeling a proportionate amount of urgency.

      • Tapirs10 [undecided,she/her]
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        2 years ago

        The Holocaust wasnt just camps. It was also as Nazis going across Eastern Europe just murdering people. Fascists everywhere have had death squads just do murder of their enemies.

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    2 years ago

    Transitioning treatments deeply rooted in our nation's history and tradition

    This implies transitioning is a deeply rooted tradition, which would be cool, but obviously that's not what they mean

    These thumb-headed fascist theocrats are so fuckin stupid they won't even know basic English composition

      • Quimby [any, any]
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        2 years ago

        idk, but let's base our entire system of living on a small cabal of geriatric white guys trying to interpret poorly written shit like this!

        seriously, this is such a good microcosm of constitutional law and jurisprudence.

      • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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        2 years ago

        It’s worded awkwardly but theyre saying there’s no precedence in our history for a right to transition and therefore you’re not entitled to have it now.

        • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Holy fuck they need to learn how to order the parts of their sentence. “The right to transitioning treatments is not rooted in our nation’s history and tradition, for anyone - adult or child” is a much less ambiguous way to say that horrifically ghoulish and evil sentence that they should’ve been hanged for writing.

      • MorelaakIsBack [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        here

        "there is no right to transition, and that distinct lack of a right is part of our deeply rooted tradition"

        it's incoherent because LACK of something is not tradition, unless you count the long bloody history of minority enslavement and persecution as "tradition"

      • S4ck [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        What they are attempting to say is because trans people "didnt exist" in the past and the right to trans care wasn't mentioned in the constitution, your medical care isn't protected.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Every day I understand a little better the revolutionary tribunals that occurred in Cuba et al. A lot of folks aren't going to get a shot a re-education.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      If you force detransition on kids there will be some violently angry parents. I suspect they're more likely to channel that into running away rather than murder but who knows, the economically trapped ones won't be able to get away.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        As long as your kids are still alive you've got a very strong incentive to keep your head down and try to survive.

        Though it occurs to me that we have a lot of intentionally childless young adults in America. Childless young adults with no prospects for the future make excellent revolutionaries.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          As long as your kids are still alive you’ve got a very strong incentive to keep your head down and try to survive.

          Trans kids won't still be alive if you forcefully detransition them. Half of them will die.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        God I hope so, because no one snapped in Nazi Germany and we got WWII. And there's no Soviet Union to bail the world out this time. China ain't gonna do shit to help us.

  • refolde [she/her, any]
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    2 years ago

    The fuckers behind this shit deserve to go through a "mind opening" experience.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Mandatory Ayahuasca purges. And with a white "Shaman", nothing authentic or entheogenic. Just shitting and vomiting for three days while tripping balls.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    if they take my hrt i will instantly become an extremely violent satanist cannibal

      • kristina [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        if they ban me from taking hrt i seriously couldnt contain myself, real talk. feels like theyre trying to goad trans people into defending ourselves so that they can slaughter us all

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    My friend and I got in a bit of an argument because she was very mad that people were even bothering to talk about the “public school teachers can lead students in prayer” decision and how Roe is one piece of this massive shitstorm the Supreme Court is doing.

    She kept saying how the narrative is “Women are second class citizens in this country” and nothing else, and looking at any other part of it dilutes that narrative.

    To me this decision is exactly why I was saying she was wrong and you have to understand this as an attack on all civil protections from all sides by a rogue political body that needs to be stopped. The fact that they didn’t start with Roe and made very clear it wouldn’t end with Roe didn’t seem to bother her.

    • Wertheimer [any]
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      2 years ago

      "A threat to justice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" is extremely true in a common law system.

    • Charon [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      People don’t have a good sense of solidarity across intersectional lines, even on issues that directly affect them. It needs to be taught.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Seriously how hard is it to say that Cis Women's Issues are Women's Issues?

        • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          It wasn’t even that, it was “Don’t talk about Roe as part of a bigger issue of this institution attacking more groups. Only talk about Roe in isolation and happening because our society hates women”

          She was basically being explicitly against the idea of solidarity and understanding that if one group is at risk all are at risk which is fucking baffling.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Agreed. Fascism doesn't come for one group specifically, it sets up a regime where any group can become the victims of the state at any moment, without any pretense of legality or rule of law. it'll usually pick one minority at a time to focus on, but that choice is arbitrary and can be swapped up as often as necessary.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      What they meant to write is

      The right to transitioning treatments is not rooted in our nation’s history and tradition, for anyone - adult or child.

      But they don’t even have a basic functional understanding of the English language and how to order a sentence to be understandable.

  • mr_world [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    This is why TERFs are wrong. They cite anti-feminism to go in on anti-transgender policy. Then they'll use that to go further. It's almost like these things intersect at some nexus rather than exist as discrete issues.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Trans Exclusionary Reactionary Fascists.

      There's no room for détente with TERFs now. They chose a side.

  • EndOfHerstory [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    If you haven’t already, now’s the best time to form a local chapter of the TLA.

    :trans-hammer-sickle: :anarchy-trans:

    • LeninsBeard [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      What is the TLA? I can't find anything other than some texas library association which seems like it's probably not what you're talking about.

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Is the phrase "sterilizing interventions" also something that should get cis people concerned, or am I reading too far into this?

  • fishnwhistle420 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    But you actually can get a medical marijuana card for your children. It’s MEDICAL. People do it all the time to treat a form of epilepsy in kids

    • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Sorry kids with epilepsy, medical marijuana isn't deeply rooted in our Nation’s history and tradition.