In the last week, I’ve noticed an increase in people talking about exit plans or emergency contingencies for those of us in America.
For my own purposes but also for others, what are some tips or tricks for prepping for ducking out for when shit really hits the fan?
I don’t really have any heritage/ descendant options for countries that offer that. Don’t have much savings but could have enough for a one way flight if I needed to.
Any suggestions welcome; I don’t want to be behind in my planning
If you're able to do so there are a bunch of countries offering remote worker visas. Paths to citizenship (if desired) vary.
As for my exit plan? There is no exit. There is no escape.
There’s something darkly appealing about just riding it out here. Plus all my friends and family are here
Yeah it's kinda :doomer: but I don't think you can ever really escape U.S. imperialism anywhere.
True, but sometimes I wonder what’s more effective: work from our atomized positions in a sea of chuddery, or form up in corner and go from there.
There will also be lots of people with no capacity to just up and leave. If you stay at least you won't be abandoning them. Not judging either way but yeah.
Market your skills to the Chinese or become a white monkey and make propaganda tiktoks
Go to Mexico then go to Cuba
Fly to Canada for a similar culture to the US, but it will likely follow suit in a few years so you’ll need to move again
I'll never know if China would hire a dumb fat monolinguist American to steal state secrets unless I ask but how would I do that even?
just start making china good videos on youtube and they'll contact you
j/k?Go to a Chinese embassy and tell them you want to become a spy. Easy :fedposting:
At least in Canada there's vast open spaces you can hide in as long as you've got a lot of firewood and beans.
if things start popping off completely i'll be trying to get to canada. but if the frog pot just keeps heating up i'll probably just die.
moving to china is supposedly really hard, but what about moving to vietnam? socialist and shares a border with china. seems like a geopolitically safe place to go
You can "move to China", but you have to have a bachelor's degree and a job lined up with an invitation letter. But that's just a temporary residence, renewed at 1 year intervals, and if anything happens to your job they give you ten days to pack up and leave the country.
If you've got a Ph.D. or are in some hot industry like AI, the door is wide open. Very generous policies, housing help (40% of a house!), front of the line for visa renewals, and after 4-5 years an easy green card (which a lot of top talents don't even want as it affects their tax liability).
Vietnam is no cakewalk either. Pretty much the same requirements for a job, degree, etc. The weather is hot all the time, and if it's not hot it's raining. Plus a few years back Vietnam got a reputation as "the next China" so you'll have to deal with the usual crowd of highly paid sexpats who love lording it over the local population and spend all of their time in bars, never learning more than 100 words of the local language, and complaining that the locals are stupid and inferior.
i dont think many americans have much appreciation for how strict visas have become in the past 30-ish years. If you learn 2 code you'll have an easy time. If you do basically anything else it'll be tougher.
even with coding, it seems hard these days. it may as well be impossible if you don't have any/much experience because no company wants to deal with relocating you and sponsoring your visa.
so you either need a ton of experience or to get an education in that country to immigrate
If you're going to leave, start getting your assets together NOW. start cashing out bank accounts, borrowing against 401k, and dump any stock or bonds you might have. Sell anything you aren't taking with you. Moving is expensive, and landing on your feet might be hard, especially in this economy. Cut as many financial ties as possible before you start your new life, so it won't draw you back in or get stolen by the fash.
any native english speaker w/ a college degree can teach english abroad. just dont be a sexpat
good luck completing a degree with no management or accommodation
would this work for cuba too? If so, time to get a teaching degree I guess lmao
My savings are going to my younger brother and my girlfriend. If shit hits the fan too hard they can leave the country. As for me, I’ll figure something out
my plan:
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live with parents to keep my expenses low
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go to a cheap school and take out as much as I can get in student loans, and try to save most of it
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major in CS
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do a master's program in Germany or Norway or something. tuition is free in both countries, you just need to pay your cost of living.
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try to find work there afterwards, and never pay back the loans
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:aus-delenda-est: has a massive skills shortage right now, the Department of Immigration has a constantly updating list of openings for work, some need sponsoring employers but others you can express interest for and wait for an invitation to apply: https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skill-occupation-list
How about cartographer?: https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs%40.nsf/Product+Lookup/FE13A3931FF29167CA257B9D0009B7C3?opendocument
Canada let's you come here without a passport or visa for a short stay if you're an American citizen/PR and can prove it (with a birth certificate for example). We also let all the draft dodgers stay during the Vietname war so hopefully that'd be the same for Americans needing to escape for political reasons in the 2020s. I don't think we will be recognizing American refugees for a while yet, the government here is far too cucked.
There's that Dutch-American friendship treaty thing people posted so long as you can get enough cash together to start a business (the article that was posted put up $7K USD for a photography business).
I don't know how Mexico handles American citizens, but I imagine it might be painless.
My best bet for me is headed to :kkkanada:, my province of choice is Quebec because they at least laugh at the "GAWD HAETZ FAQZ" crowd that dominates American culture.
Quebecois people, at least the pur-lain types can be pretty racist. The cities should be okay but Quebec City are very precious about their french. Montreal would probably be the best but home prices are out of control and they do this weird thing where they rent 5 or 7 room apartments but they count bathrooms and living room and kitchens in addition to bedrooms?? Its like the only city in Canada that does that, as far as i know, its weird.
You can 180 days to a lot of countries, take a trip back to the US, and start over.
I have no money for that, but if I had a good job that's what I'd do lol
