does it really count as "polarized" when everyone fucking hates you

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    2 years ago

    In games such as golf, you win by scoring lower than any of your opponents. But in the realm of presidential job approval, such an approach is a recipe for political upheaval, as President Biden has found over the past few months.

    Essay wordcount ass writing style.

    • OgdenTO [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      It's so condescending "Let me give you context and explain to you that in fact, higher numbers are better usually"

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        2 years ago

        I just realized he calls it an approach, as if there would be a president that decided that actually, being unpopular is a cool curveball approach to electoral politics.

      • Lundi [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        reddit always has this sort of surface level intelligence that compels them to say 'just cuz u dn't understand probability doesn't mean 538's numbers are wrong'. u can manipulate stats and numbers and misinterpret data when making a model u assholes

    • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      I dare the motherfucker to tell me another game off the top of his head with golf scoring

      • TeethOrCoat [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        You say that, but I've heard the opposite. Like this shows the system allows dissent, western democracies have less propagandized citizens...

    • a_fanonist_hexagon [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      In games such as golf, you win by scoring lower than any of your opponents. If the Special Military Operation were a game of golf and the "score" was how many of your opponents soldiers you've killed, Vyolyodymyr Zyelyenskyyeye would be doing super well right now. It would also be super good for Zyelyenskyeyeyeye if the "score" was how many of your own soldiers you have left. But unfortunately, war is not like golf, unless if you scored it by either how many of your own soldiers die or how many soldiers your opponents have left. A cruel lesson for the brave democratic resistance. Slava Geroide

    • a_fanonist_hexagon [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      nonononononononononono we don't work with theories of "why" people hate the president here at 538, we only train computers to look for correlations in big spreadsheets

    • Hohsia [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Wow, you sound fucking evil

      Why would you make fun of his stutter like that?

      :maybe-later-kiddo:

  • stigsbandit34z [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    So it's kinda surreal how I knew biden was going to be a bad president, but he's actually leagues worse

    I don't know how long liberals will be able to keep this up. They are treating biden the exact way republicans treated trump

    • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      It's even more pathetic, because at least Trump provided slop for his hogs. Meanwhile Biden's out here bumping fists with MBS, ramping up nuclear tensions with Iran, building the border wall, and doing jack shit about any of the number of domestic crises. Not even the shitlibs are getting what they wanted. Nobody is getting a fucking thing except the finance zombies to hold this party by the balls.

      There are a hundred thousand hogs out there who would take a bullet for Trump. All Biden's got are overpaid shitheads who can spend 16 hours a day scoldtweeting.

      • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Shitlibs are getting what they want, they just pretended like they wanted something different during the primaries and early in the Biden admin (when everything was still "in the future").

        • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          The thing liberals want more than anything else is for their precious institutions to be held in high regard. Congress (article I) has 16% public approval, Biden (article II) has 36%, and the Supreme Court (article III) has something like 39%. Democratic party apparatchiks are doing fine, but this is really fucking bad for liberalism, and there are many liberals well read enough to understand this. They have built themselves a world where the legislature is only a fraction as popular as the cops.

      • a_fanonist_hexagon [he/him]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        He's owning the left! We're such owned out of touch activists! We're soy wojak crying at his chadly "sure thing Jack, I'll nominate an anti-abortion judge as a favor to my good friend Mitch expecting nothing in return"

    • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I briefly felt good when he pulled out of Afghanistan. But it looks like he only did it in order to implement an even crueler policy on them. And he isn't pulling out of the countries where sanctions would be less cruel than the status quo (Yemen), while he is also very belligerent against Iran.

      • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I seriously believe at this point they only pulled out of Afghanistan because Biden had heard about before because his son was a veteran and because there were already plans in place to do so (if as messily as possible). Idk at this point, it's incredibly difficult to reverse engineer these decisions.

      • Farman [any]
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        2 years ago

        He pulled from afghanistan because the situation was unsustainable. When obama took power there were 2k taliban then it was 16k then 60. 4 years later it was 200k. And so on. Trump just ignored the problem. When nothing could be done he decided to pull out in may. Then biden tried his best to stay, pull out later but everything collapsed and the got removed? in august. That is after the trump deadline. They got removed they did not leave. That is the important thing.

        • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Hmm, wonder why it's unsustainable and Taliban keep increasing :soviet-hmm:

          • Farman [any]
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            2 years ago

            Peple dislike ocupation by a foreing power. Obamas surge meant the ocupation was more noticeable. And for all his suposed cynicism obama was a true belever. So he was more active in nation building than bush. People also dont like it when someone else tells them to do stupid shit.

            If some of that reconstruction money wold have been used to build concrete things lile roads and railways things may have bern diferent. The more developed regions began their insurgency later. But a majority of that money was used for ideoological shit. Or to make admonistrative reforms that made everyones life harder but ultimatle did not increase tax base. Or to pay 100k to mayor butt for a power point presentation.

            My point was that biden did not chose to leave he had to. He was removed by a very popular insurgency.

            We may not like it because they maigth be reactionar in some ways. But they defeated the americans. The forced them out. I think we should recogise that.

      • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Yes but no. When the crops start to die they're toast but they don't think it can happen so silver lining: these dumb motherfuckers will die in denial.

        • footfaults [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Unfortunately, because of their class position they will be the last to die, if they die at all. They will side with the fascists, hoard all the remaining resources and kill everyone else.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      So it’s kinda surreal how I knew biden was going to be a bad president, but he’s actually leagues worse

      The American Empire was going to have to collapse sooner or later. And it wasn't going to continuously decay under a good president.

      All told, America's going to shit but a lot of other regions are doing rather well. Biden's the accelerationist President. A shit politician, but he's bringing this thing down from the inside better than any leftist could dream of.

  • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    True die hard libs are really in denial

    The country is falling apart. And they are wondeting why no one wants centrism any more.

  • culpritus [any]
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    2 years ago

    uhmmm, that graph with note about Bush getting a huge bump from 9/11

    wonder why they decided to include that

    :cool-zone:

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Pundits: ez, he's too woke, Palestinians have too many rights, and the non-existent social safety net is too generous

    • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The fact that the journalist class even reported mitch McConnell asinine blaming of stimulus checks so they could get the hate clicks is very informative. They should have just laughed him out of the room. Capitalist media is a race to the bottom and its getting vulnerable people killed.

  • dung_Eater [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    he's going for the the legend of korra season 3 approach

    be the avatar

    didn't consult the masses about unleashing the spirit world

    people lose their homes

    have a low approval rating

    doesn't matter, some people can air bend now

    low approval rating is forgotten for the rest of show

  • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    tl: dr

    People don't like him because he has taken next to no action on anything meaningful, and Democrats are only sticking with him because he isn't a (registered) Republican. That's it, that's the entire article

    • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      They claim its because of obstruction in congress but that's not taking into account how little we see of this guy. FDR's polio ass rode a train all over and got tied to a podium on at least one occasion to speak to the masses. If you can't do shit with political machinery you need to speak to the masses and build an electorate to change shit. Instead we get a guy more reclusive than GWB was in 2006.

  • redthebaron [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    being bad and not charming also, like have you seen his party

  • MorelaakIsBack [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    oh i don't know nate, maybe a domestic policy that amounts to biden yanking one out onto a piece of signed letterhead and mailing it to every american?