I, John Brown, am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away, but with blood.

  • YiffingInTheNameOf [he/him,comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Was there ever a thorough assessment of what happened in the primaries?

    From what I can remember, in the first few states, when Bernie's staff was allowed to monitor everything, he absolutely crushed it (ignoring the Pete/Shadow Inc. rat fucking) and then as soon as they reached states where their team could not see the whole thing Biden started winning by absolutely insane margins (at least for a guy who lost a tooth and whose eye exploded on national television).

    But I guess the complete opacity of the process is the point. We'll never know if people truly went for safe ol' rambly pull-my-leg-hair Joe or if he had a little help from the DNC (y'know, apart from Pete and Stapler-throwing-lady dropping overnight while Elizabeth Warren stayed in the race).

    • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Bernie should have stayed on topic and stopped calling Biden his friend and saying he was a good man and would be a good president.

      Sanders was a fucking idiot and threw the primary. He was probably gonna lose anyway once the centrist blob blobbed up but he should have gone out swinging, especially because we see now he would have been proven right and it would have helped solidify a counter-narrative.

      I ask this. Do you think Trump would have won his primaries if he had said "my good friend Jeb Bush, he'd be a good President but I'd be better"? He won because he smacked the shit of loser neocons and called them out for the huge fuck ups they are.

    • frankfurt_schoolgirl [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      I'm not sure there was ever some super fancy rigging or anything, beside maybe in Iowa. All it took to beat Bernie was Obama coordinating the most popular centric candidates to all drop out while leaving Warren in to take votes. Also, the media's relentless pushing of electability and white Bernie Bro narratives turned just enough liberals off.

      • emizeko [they/them]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        archive of berniewouldhavelost: https://archive.ph/iUpeu

      • Asia_Set [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        berniewouldhavelost.com

        EDIT: yeah like LoremIpsum says don't click this, the site is dead

        • LoremIpsum [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          (Dont actually click the link, then against your better judgement bypass your adblocker to see the site, its just spam)

          • Asia_Set [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Aw damn, I see what you mean. I actually first saw the actual site linked in a post on here when it still worked/hosted the content about the DNC rigging the primary.

              • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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                2 years ago

                Likely someone stopped paying the hosting fees and someone else bought the site out from under them.

        • emizeko [they/them]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          archive of berniewouldhavelost: https://archive.ph/iUpeu

    • FemboyStalin [she/her,any]
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      2 years ago

      Another facet of this we will never be able to quantify is how much the media getting all on the same page of who to back affected things. They all decided to push Biden as the electible one after all picking their own favorites.

    • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      it was said in another comment, but young people came out at high levels to support bernie while old people got very scared by the young people and came out in record breaking levels.