Chinese authorities announced Wednesday that a number of diehard “Taiwan secessionist” individuals, two funds, and multiple companies related to secessionist activities will be punished in accordance with the law, after US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi landed in Taiwan island Tuesday night in disregard of stern warnings from China, a visit that has sent a wrong message to “Taiwan independence” forces and has escalated the tension across the Taiwan Straits.
Combined with the sanctions, the increased tensions, the 3 joint communiques being off the table now and anything else the PRC will do in retaliation, this seems like a fair trade-off for checks notes Pelosi spending half a day on Taiwan for a photo op.
This is so ridiculous. Taiwan should have shot her plane down themselves.
The DPP don't care about the wellbeing of ordinary people living in Taiwan, they just want to pursue their own ideological goal of secession, seemingly at all costs.
The separatists have roots with fascist collaborators during World War II. Absolutely wild shit how Lee Teng-hui came from a family of fascist collaborators and was himself a fascist collaborator by volunteering as an officer in the IJA or how Tsai Ing-wen's father was a mechanic who fixed Zeros in Japanese occupied Manchuria. It turns out Japanese collaborators don't actually care about Chinese people. Who would've guessed?
I find it amazing how the DPP's liberalism is just an American cargo cult. They worship every single ghoul and oligarch from the US as long as the weapons keep coming. They worship Mike Pompeo while their American counterparts hate him for undermining democracy.
Liberals love to claim that democratization in Taiwan "freed" the people from KMT authoritarianism, but it seems more like the US abandoned the KMT as their chosen party because they were too ideological and would eventually seek reunification. The DPP are neolibs who believe in nothing but whatever ideology comes pre-packaged with shipments of American weapons.
This isn't true. If they wanted"succession" they would have declared independence already. Chen, the last kmt president tried to sneakily integrate China into Taiwan and nobody liked it so the kmt is a dead party at least for the presidency now.
Chen, the last kmt president tried to sneakily integrate China into Taiwan and nobody liked it so the kmt is a dead party at least for the presidency now.
Lol, now I know you're definitely not Taiwanese because there's no goddamn way you would mix up Taiwanese presidents like that.
If they declare, they would have go to war, genius. If they truly want peace, negotiate with the mainland for peaceful reunification under 1 C 2 S and said that they’re Chinese province, don’t allow the head of foreign state in
~90% of Taiwanese trade with China is unaffected. The additional companies added make shit like Taiwan Freedom burger microwave meals.
Looks like this blustering is more about mainland Chinese politics than serious economic sanctions against Taiwan. Which wouldn't be good for either side tbh.
Its always been a face issue. They never should have claimed Taiwan in the first place. They only did it because the KMT did it first (before they fled to Taiwan). Mao supported taiwanese independence from the Japanese colonizers.
I think its more than a face issue when an island right off the coast of your country being an US ally and part of US strategic island chains to contain your country
Taiwan does not have a choice but to ally with the US. Kazakhstan was neutral and they got hit with a coup attempt by the US. The alternative isn't even an alternative. They're literally threatening to invade every few months. How does a country ally with another country that says they'll invade anytime now?
And how is Taiwan containing China? Lmao. Chinese nationalists make fun of how shitty the taiwanese military is all the time. There are no US bases in Taiwan.
Taiwan does not have a choice but to ally with the US.
I appreciate reading some opinions from Taiwan but how much Parenti have you actually read? The US will lead your country toward destruction, does not care how many die as long as it deals a blow to China. This has been the case throughout history when a small country is caught in a tug of war between the US and a large power that threatens its economic hegemony. I can't help but feel your analysis is clouded by nationalism.
Peaceful unification with China is an alternative to the path that leads to certain conflict. You think the US will stop at trade agreements? You think the CIA isn't already involved in preparing anti-China separatist groups for violence? They don't care if Taiwan wins or has independence, they will send Taiwanese into proxy conflict as cannon fodder and sleep well knowing there are degrees of separation between nuclear powers.
What is the root of the situation Taiwan faced now, is it not because a bunch of civil wars losers fled to it, occupied it and allied themselves with US against China, so what China could have even done to allow for any sorts of independence without any guarantee that they are not tightly wound to US interests. You're talking like Taiwan is without blame here.
As for containing China, it's a PART of not the entire effort, any act of war against it will trigger response from US and allies and since China not gonna flatten it, it will act as a nuisance, holding out for reinforcements and deterring China deployments near it.
Combined with the sanctions, the increased tensions, the 3 joint communiques being off the table now and anything else the PRC will do in retaliation, this seems like a fair trade-off for checks notes Pelosi spending half a day on Taiwan for a photo op.
This is so ridiculous. Taiwan should have shot her plane down themselves.
The DPP don't care about the wellbeing of ordinary people living in Taiwan, they just want to pursue their own ideological goal of secession, seemingly at all costs.
The separatists have roots with fascist collaborators during World War II. Absolutely wild shit how Lee Teng-hui came from a family of fascist collaborators and was himself a fascist collaborator by volunteering as an officer in the IJA or how Tsai Ing-wen's father was a mechanic who fixed Zeros in Japanese occupied Manchuria. It turns out Japanese collaborators don't actually care about Chinese people. Who would've guessed?
I find it amazing how the DPP's liberalism is just an American cargo cult. They worship every single ghoul and oligarch from the US as long as the weapons keep coming. They worship Mike Pompeo while their American counterparts hate him for undermining democracy.
Liberals love to claim that democratization in Taiwan "freed" the people from KMT authoritarianism, but it seems more like the US abandoned the KMT as their chosen party because they were too ideological and would eventually seek reunification. The DPP are neolibs who believe in nothing but whatever ideology comes pre-packaged with shipments of American weapons.
They're just cucks.
Not only do they not care about Taiwanese, they don't even do the fascist optics of claiming Mongolia and the Tuvan republic and shit like the KMT did
They literally serve no purpose other than to suck US dick lel
This isn't true. If they wanted"succession" they would have declared independence already. Chen, the last kmt president tried to sneakily integrate China into Taiwan and nobody liked it so the kmt is a dead party at least for the presidency now.
Stop victim blaming Taiwan.
Stop victim blaming Taiwan
:fedposting:
Won't somebody please think of the running dogs of American Imperialism?!
Lol, now I know you're definitely not Taiwanese because there's no goddamn way you would mix up Taiwanese presidents like that.
If they declare, they would have go to war, genius. If they truly want peace, negotiate with the mainland for peaceful reunification under 1 C 2 S and said that they’re Chinese province, don’t allow the head of foreign state in
~90% of Taiwanese trade with China is unaffected. The additional companies added make shit like Taiwan Freedom burger microwave meals.
Looks like this blustering is more about mainland Chinese politics than serious economic sanctions against Taiwan. Which wouldn't be good for either side tbh.
I doubt they want to truly hurt the people of Taiwan anyway.
Taking Taiwan would be a nightmare militarily. 3/4 of the island is impenetrable mountainous jungle.
China is only one generation behind TSMC anyways. Invading Taiwan would gain them nothing.
You can't invade your own country
Its always been a face issue. They never should have claimed Taiwan in the first place. They only did it because the KMT did it first (before they fled to Taiwan). Mao supported taiwanese independence from the Japanese colonizers.
I think its more than a face issue when an island right off the coast of your country being an US ally and part of US strategic island chains to contain your country
Taiwan does not have a choice but to ally with the US. Kazakhstan was neutral and they got hit with a coup attempt by the US. The alternative isn't even an alternative. They're literally threatening to invade every few months. How does a country ally with another country that says they'll invade anytime now?
And how is Taiwan containing China? Lmao. Chinese nationalists make fun of how shitty the taiwanese military is all the time. There are no US bases in Taiwan.
I appreciate reading some opinions from Taiwan but how much Parenti have you actually read? The US will lead your country toward destruction, does not care how many die as long as it deals a blow to China. This has been the case throughout history when a small country is caught in a tug of war between the US and a large power that threatens its economic hegemony. I can't help but feel your analysis is clouded by nationalism.
Peaceful unification with China is an alternative to the path that leads to certain conflict. You think the US will stop at trade agreements? You think the CIA isn't already involved in preparing anti-China separatist groups for violence? They don't care if Taiwan wins or has independence, they will send Taiwanese into proxy conflict as cannon fodder and sleep well knowing there are degrees of separation between nuclear powers.
China doesn't need Taiwan. It can play the long game and wait for it to fall in its orbit or not.
Any conflict with Taiwan could conceivably last decades. No one knows what kind of crazy underground bases are on the back end of the island.
What is the root of the situation Taiwan faced now, is it not because a bunch of civil wars losers fled to it, occupied it and allied themselves with US against China, so what China could have even done to allow for any sorts of independence without any guarantee that they are not tightly wound to US interests. You're talking like Taiwan is without blame here.
As for containing China, it's a PART of not the entire effort, any act of war against it will trigger response from US and allies and since China not gonna flatten it, it will act as a nuisance, holding out for reinforcements and deterring China deployments near it.
https://i.imgur.com/NerwhQb.png
Mainlanders can't get their taiwanese treats now
Taiwanese need to sell to somebody, and only mainlander conform to the taste of the treat
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