It looks so bad and lame. If you can't do it animated, just don't do it. I don't care how good you think your CGI is, it looks like Bridge to Tarabithia
They sapped the emotional content out of the image in the adaptation. In the original, the head-on perspective emphasizes the distance between them, and the lack of direct physical contact further emphasizes that the two are estranged. Their expressions are also better in the original - if I recall the context correctly, Death is waiting for Dream to let his guard down and welcome her back into his life, since he was the one to end their relationship as siblings, and in general he's the more petulant of the two and needs to grow.
I haven't seen it so I can't speak to the quality of it beyond this image, but I would much rather they go fucking wild with the visuals that something this reigned-in. Like "Bram Stoker's Dracula" levels of hamming-up the costuming and set design.
They cherry picked. The visuals get fucking whacky and def hold up. The Lucifer fight is everything I wanted and more
Really? I've enjoyed a lot of the show, but the Lucifer fight was the least of it.
I've really been having fun with the Cereal Convention, though. Good acting, good drama, a nice mix of horror and humor.
The fight was very abstract in a minimalist way in the comics. Seeing a well acted and well CG’d rendition of it that kept the overall feel was great.
The Cereal convention was fantastic.
In the comic, Dream just fights the Duke. And he delivers "I am hope" as a chessmaster who just boxed his opponent into a clever trap.
In the show, he struggles to squeak it out against Satan, in a come from behind finish.
Not my favorite adaptation. But that's art for you.
Gaiman said the change was specifically to show that Dream especially at Thai time needs people and to show the overall theme of the series being hope and dreams.
Frankly I like that, it sets up things to come and also allows us to see Gwendoline Christie who Gaiman said he adored but had to cut a lot of for time constraint.
I mean, I think they did a solid role casting her. Just not how I would have adapted it.
Don't worry they definitely get wild with the visuals, this image is like the worst possible representation of the series.
so wait what's a bad adaptation about this image, is it that he just looks like a regular cracker instead of emo hair cracker?
edit: is it that they're touching instead of leaving room for Jesus
The blank background sets a mood, and the artist can convey so much about the characters and their feelings and their relationship just from how they're placed, and with a few lines and shading. You just can't do that with live action- it just looks like two people sitting on a bench. A huge part of the visual storytelling that made this panel unique and interesting is lost.
but if it's animated you can't go "woah look it's Tywin Lannister, I'm glad that dude's still getting work"
If it was animated they would never be able to afford animation to make it look like the comic and we’d be shifting on it for looking like dragon prince or that Greek mythology show Netflix has.
You're touching on something here that I've been thinking for a while. Unless you have top tier actors doing multiple takes with a director that is genuinely brilliant and focused on recreating scenes accurately you can't do something that should be animated in live action.
The problem is that art and animation can be redone until the scene is perfect, until the body language is perfect and conveys the exact emotion intended. Actors performing can't do that, and they don't have the third person perspective of the work that the artist does anyway. They can't see what they're not getting right while in the scene, and their individual personalities can get in the way compared to the character on a sheet of paper.
Yeah I just watched the whole thing and I thought it was good.
Some people just like hating things. I agree it could have been cooler if it were animated.
Also there's a LOT more visually striking scenes than this it's like they just chose one of the blandest frames in the entire show to complain about.
I saw the first episode and part of the second and it was all just really bland to me. I just don't think the live action medium can properly capture what makes The Sandman unique.
I thought it was great and have been recommending it to people.
Some people just like hating things.
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I've only watched 3 of em but I really like it so far :shrug-outta-hecks:
It’s not that bad. If Neil Gaiman, who has refused to pull the trigger on ANYTHING related to his sacred baby till now. You have to know it’s at least SOMEWHAT good.
Sure this didn’t hold up as well you know what did? A fuck ton of other scenes. The violin scene, the reveal and then battle with Lucifer, the fucking dream traveling scene.
It was never going to be animated. And if it was the quality would have been shit due to the amount of money it would take and we’d be complaining about that.
Fucking hell some of you sound like modern Star Wars fans about every piece of media I swear.
Fucking hell some of you sound like modern Star Wars fans about every piece of media I swear.
Star Wars fans at least like something. Online leftists think it's their responsibility to hate every piece of media produced today, and that enjoying things makes you a liberal.
The only good Star Wars movie was The Empire Strikes Back and also The Ewok Movie, because I watched it when I was six and cherish the memory fondly.
I will go to my deathbed defending book of bobba fett as “not that bad” and “not nearly as goofy as other shit in Star Wars” if only to spite the losers
The final struggle session will be this thread arguing whether Stalin loving cowboy movies makes him a liberal or not. Also do Star Wars fans like things? Are you sure ?
The best part is a lot of little bits feel like Gaiman trolling with people. Like how they produce Constantine’s name. I for one welcome our new openly sassy Gaiman overlord.
Also Desire. If you haven't gotten to their scenes yet you aren't allowed to comment.
I was trying to keep the desire stuff completely spoiler free but yes. Gaiman talking about how excited he was for the drakes parts makes all the sense.
I haven't watched it yet, how do they pronounce Constantine?
They do it the proper British way so Con-stan-TYNE not Con-stan-TEEN. Which is actually the way that Alan Moore intended.
Fans however get super butt hurt about it, something that Neil has mentioned before as annoying him. Seeing it here feels like such a direct reference to that whole thing.
Been watching and my feelings are mixed. Sandman (the comic) is one of my favorite pieces of media of all time. And I do think they did about as good a job as they could adapting it to live action, although some of the costuming is a little too toned-down imo. Like, did anyone else think Dream looked a little more like himself (in terms of hair/clothes) in that flashback to the 14th century where he first meets Hob? And why not let Death have thicker eyeliner with the little swirl she has in the comics? But costuming aside I think so far the stories themselves are fairly well adapted.
That being said, the stylization and artistic touches are a huge part of what made the comic so amazing, and a lot of them are just lost on live action.Very much so. I also greatly enjoyed the bits in Hell, especially the duel. Corinthian has also been excellent so far, and I just got to Desire who seems perfect from what I've seen.
edit: Almost forgot to add, 24 Hour Diner was quite well done. Sort of felt like a single-location horror movie.
I skimmed the wikipedia one day after reading about the project. I like the show it's really good. Nothing amazing but has a charm and weirdness like other Gaiman shows (that demon vs angel one from amazon I am pretty sure is based on his work but forgot the name). So coming from a non-reader, I give this show 7 dreams out of 10 dreams.
looks like Bridge to Tarabithia
:kitty-cri: take that bad rn
I've never actually seen Bridge to Tarabithia. What's a fakey CGI fantasy movie? THe Owls of Ga-hoole, or whatever?
I would say Owls Of Ga Hoole would be a bad comparison as it is a fully animated movie, and a pretty beautiful one at that
But any Marvel movie on the other hand…
