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      • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        idiot, spreading kremlin disinformatsiya - I see that Xitler and Putler are paying you well, Komrad!

        if you look at the numbers, you'll see that Operation Iraqi Freedom (which was an immediate response to Mohammedan attacks on 9/11, if I remember correctly) lead to 1 million death in response to 2,000 American deaths, meaning the ratio is actually 500:1

        isn't it past your bedtime there in Moscow?

        #SlaveUkraine #ToTheLastUkrainian #FreeUigur(sp?)Stan

      • Weedian [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Or “congress hasn’t declared war since ww2 so USA hasn’t fought any wars since then”

  • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I think this is grounded in so many people thinking about history only as the history of war. There are very real people who are not supernaturally dumb or anything who think that history goes American Civil War > World War 1 > World War 2, with periods of nothing in between. To them, most times will look peaceful, because compared to World War 2 - which was one event and not a process spread out over several years - any individual month is not that violent.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      I still struggle to make sure to not think of history this way, and I know why so many people think that way. It’s literally how history was taught in school. In my high school everything after 1770 was covered in US History, and the chapters went something like revolutionary war, antebellum, civil war, Indian wars, world war 1, world war 2, Cold War.

      • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        This is not unique to the US. It is how history is taught. My history books pretty much told me that history ended in 1721. Then there was the French Revolution in 1789 and the industrial revolution in 1800. Then World War 1. Weird to skip the 19th century in my opinion, but no wars here, so it simply is not history.

  • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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    2 years ago

    this is sort of true. The number of interstate wars (state vs state) has dropped drastically since the end of World World 2 They were almost extinct for the past few decades, besides a few key events like Iraq, Afghanistan, and Ukraine.

    However what we got instead are intrastate wars, better known as civil wars. And my god we have so many of them, and they have been on the rise. America loves using her hegemonic power to foment civil conflict, and those wars aren't any less brutal. Honestly they are usually worse.

  • Farman [any]
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    2 years ago

    There are types of violence other than war.

    Or is the murder of a million arabs by clintons sanctions not violence. What about impobrishing removedrie by the use of sanctions this often has more lasting consequences than war as far as the living conditions of the place goes.

    What about the millions killed in the gloval south because of vaccine ip hoarding.

    The song the sun is also a warrior by leslie fish is a very good take on this.

  • TheLegendaryCarrot23 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    This is actually the strongest argument for the legitimacy of America Hegemony when made by someone whose even mildly intelligent. Of course it's still ludicrous for various reasons but the strongest being American primacy isn't the defining feature of the post WW2 make up of nations, contrary to even critics of American Primacy(Chomsky) . As Chavez himself pointed out the greatest change in the international system of the post WW2 era was the massive wave of independence movements in the colonized world , from Africa to South America , China, India, Indochina, West Asia and beyond. All of said movements (which varied in ideology but with Communism and progressive nationalism playing the largest role ) were and are a counterbalance against western imperialism. Along with the USSR through the Cold War of course. America then in it's post WW2 primacy took the mantle of restoring the previous collaborators to the imperial order while trying to stamp down and maintain domination of it's "backyard" in Central and South America.

    In other words western imperialism getting beaten back is the primary reason why a global war hasn't broken out (even though for most of the planet during the Cold War and almost the entire planet now being under the totality of international capital). Western imperialism was at it's zenith prior to 1914 and as Enzo Traverso has shown the period of 1914-1945 can be constituted as a civil war with it's heart in Western Europe between rival imperial powers(yes that includes modern Japan) with the colonized world caught in-between yet being given the opportunity to fight for liberation as the imperialist slaughtered themselves and the brutality of colonialism came home in the form of Fascism .

  • Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    We used to have the biggest wars. They were great, great big wars. There was World War two, the Franco-Prussian War, World War One - they called that one "the Great War" it was so great of course we know it wasn't really that great. Running from trench to trench getting mowed down by machine guns pew pew pew pew. A lot of people died, but not as many as World War Two. Now that was a great war. I wouldn't have died though. I would've stayed in the trench, bombed them with artillery. One second you're ducking behind sandbags, the next you're blown to bits. Boom. Buhbye Fritz.

  • bayezid [any]
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    2 years ago

    There's been little inter-bourgeoisie warfare. Class warfare has been constant.