He's slime...
Toobin had a longtime off-and-on extramarital affair with attorney Casey Greenfield. Greenfield became pregnant with Toobin's child. Toobin offered her money to have an abortion. When she refused to do so, he threatened that she would regret it if she did not comply. [...] They had a child in 2009, which Toobin initially resisted acknowledging. Toobin's paternity was confirmed with a DNA test and a Manhattan family court judge ordered Toobin to pay child support.
wow the guy who was jerking live also is a deadbeat sex pest? how unexpected
Learned Laptop screens are less likely to get pregnant, but ignored all other potential lessons regarding being a decent person. What a loser.
I think pressuring a woman into having an abortion is at least as bad as the reverse
Nobody should be forced to be a parent. Pressuring people bad, but also it’s like the least bad way to escape. Assuming one is too weak to maintain a volcel pledge, of course. :volcel-judge:
Is it really stupid to make it clear that any parenting is going to need to be forced by the state? Honesty is usually a good starting place.
Big difference in places with forced birth laws, obviously.
Like, I avoid potential pregnancy by preferring men, but I’d take a vow of celibacy if I ever had to risk a kid.
That’s reasonable. I simply think that unless consent to parenthood is made clear it isn’t there. Much like literally every type of consent, it cannot be assumed.
no I disagree nobody should be forced to give birth but pressuring women into getting abortions is similarly not respectful of their bodily autonomy so no it's really not the least bad way to escape.
abortion shouldn't be legal so people have an out for parenthood but because people shouldn't be forced to give birth. It's a clear cut bodily autonomy issue
Potentially ruining a life is fucked up. An alternative system for legal parenthood would be opt in, but the current framework only allows a single point of opting out which is convincing to get an abortion.
The whole line of reasoning “every nut is consenting to being a parent and all the legal burdens that come with it” seems indistinguishable from abstinence only sex-Ed which is rightfully rejected by most (all?) here.
Idk, I didn’t mean to argue that it isn't distasteful, but it’s basically the least bad out. A functional society would be set up in a way that this isn’t the case. I guess I shouldn’t be accepting the internal logic of a bad system by arguing within it or something.
if you try and pressure a woman into getting an abortion that is not respectful of her bodily autonomy as you are trying to decide what she can do with her body for her. It's exactly as disrespectful to her right to decide what to do with her body as trying to pressure a woman out of getting an abortion
I agree, but until there is an opt-in or free to opt out until a point of reason system…
no women's bodily autonomy should not be tied to whether men can easily leave their children.
Pressuring a woman into getting an abortion is disrespectful of their human right to bodily autonomy and implies you think they are a lesser human than you with less right to decide what to do with their own body. It's not mean it's fundamentally dehumanising
Cursed thought: somebody out there in northern Virginia has a dog named Maddow
Death to America
masturbation is cool and good actually
just dont do it on zoom for your coworkers lmao
I’m assuming he started jacking off live on air as his last act on CNN
