The whole reason that furries are so kinky like that is because they are extremely gay/queer. Queer people tend to fuck a lot and be quite kinky. All criticism of furries you can swap "furry" for "gay", and it's literally word for word exactly the same shit homophobes say.
Furry hate is just a way for homophobes to publicly say homophobic things and face less backlash.
On Chapo, Christman once said that the rise of incest porn was because capitalist alienation had made everyone so lonely that it is fucking with sexual barometers, or something like that. I don't know if that is true, but if it is I feel it'd go a long way to explaining all these bizarre internet-spawned fetishes.
There's probably something to that...but on the other hand a brief look at 17th/18th century porn (or the walls of a roman brothel) will tell you these aren't exactly new fetishes
I've always favored a simpler explanation for the rise of incest roleplay porn: you can take literally any porn scenario, change a few of the words, and suddenly it's "incest porn" in addition to whatever other genres it already belonged to. Not only is it free taboo that doesn't require your actors to physically do anything they might not be comfortable with, it also means any viewers not into that can easily tune it out since it's otherwise a standard porn scene.
I've always wondered if part of the reason for step-incest porn is that it's an easy and (porn-)logical way to explain why a hot person is in your house ready to have sex with you despite you putting zero effort towards making that happen. Same as how the pizza delivery guy thing was never about the pizza (not even in cases where the pizza is involved).
I'm sure some element of incest fetishism is at play too, but part has to just be that writing "help me step-bro I'm stuck" is easy boilerplate porn writing
The loli fetish is clearly sublimed noncery. The Furry thing is...they don't want to screw ducks, they want to screw Donald Duck. Which, again, super weird, but also a fictional representation of an adult, sentient, consenting character which is more a human with some duck features than anything else.
And not really any different from wanting to screw, say, an anime catgirl, or even Arwen Evenstar as far as I can tell. Neither of which is considered particularly unhealthy provided the person is otherwise functional.
Frankly, less so than Jane Eyre fantasies which would make half the het women in the west unwell.
/r/socialism tried to ban catgirls several years ago and they were routinely ridiculed for this exact take and it they eventually went back on it after the whole left made fun of them.
It is a really really silly take. For one petplay is a fetish that people outright enjoy, it's a sub/dom thing, and it's perfectly ok like every other sub/dom thing. And for two it isn't always petplay it's just liking catgirls, people like raccoon girls too is that magically different? What about batgirls? None of these are pets. It's not always a pet thing at all. Specifically singling out the cats is really silly.
counterpoint: the furry fandom does have serious issues (related to grooming + sa more than the pictures on the Internet people hyperfocus on because they're more entertaining), but have you heard of "heterosexuals"
idk about bronies but from whatever little research has been done it does seem like a non insignificant % of furries ,male furries mainly, experience sexual attraction towards actual animals in various degrees
I think the issue here, on a level more specific than his unfortunate brainrot, is the conflation of furry as fetish and the broader subculture.
It's like how most bronies don't want to fuck the horses but some do and those people are definitely unwell.
I'm not sure I'd compare even the fetish Furries to fetish Bronies.
Like, weird kink, not my thing, not into it, but fine, consenting adults portraying consenting adults who just happen to be anthropomorphic animals.
The whole reason that furries are so kinky like that is because they are extremely gay/queer. Queer people tend to fuck a lot and be quite kinky. All criticism of furries you can swap "furry" for "gay", and it's literally word for word exactly the same shit homophobes say.
Furry hate is just a way for homophobes to publicly say homophobic things and face less backlash.
all ten straight furries can stop being horny in public too
On Chapo, Christman once said that the rise of incest porn was because capitalist alienation had made everyone so lonely that it is fucking with sexual barometers, or something like that. I don't know if that is true, but if it is I feel it'd go a long way to explaining all these bizarre internet-spawned fetishes.
There's probably something to that...but on the other hand a brief look at 17th/18th century porn (or the walls of a roman brothel) will tell you these aren't exactly new fetishes
I've always favored a simpler explanation for the rise of incest roleplay porn: you can take literally any porn scenario, change a few of the words, and suddenly it's "incest porn" in addition to whatever other genres it already belonged to. Not only is it free taboo that doesn't require your actors to physically do anything they might not be comfortable with, it also means any viewers not into that can easily tune it out since it's otherwise a standard porn scene.
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I've always wondered if part of the reason for step-incest porn is that it's an easy and (porn-)logical way to explain why a hot person is in your house ready to have sex with you despite you putting zero effort towards making that happen. Same as how the pizza delivery guy thing was never about the pizza (not even in cases where the pizza is involved).
I'm sure some element of incest fetishism is at play too, but part has to just be that writing "help me step-bro I'm stuck" is easy boilerplate porn writing
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I'm...not sure it's the same thing, frankly.
The loli fetish is clearly sublimed noncery. The Furry thing is...they don't want to screw ducks, they want to screw Donald Duck. Which, again, super weird, but also a fictional representation of an adult, sentient, consenting character which is more a human with some duck features than anything else.
And not really any different from wanting to screw, say, an anime catgirl, or even Arwen Evenstar as far as I can tell. Neither of which is considered particularly unhealthy provided the person is otherwise functional.
Frankly, less so than Jane Eyre fantasies which would make half the het women in the west unwell.
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Is fetishizing catboys still misogynistic?
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If someone asked me to describe discourse online in a single sentence, I'd probably go for yours.
Honestly feels like you should be given a :hero-of-socialist-labor: as a reward.
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Is that a trick question?
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/r/socialism tried to ban catgirls several years ago and they were routinely ridiculed for this exact take and it they eventually went back on it after the whole left made fun of them.
It is a really really silly take. For one petplay is a fetish that people outright enjoy, it's a sub/dom thing, and it's perfectly ok like every other sub/dom thing. And for two it isn't always petplay it's just liking catgirls, people like raccoon girls too is that magically different? What about batgirls? None of these are pets. It's not always a pet thing at all. Specifically singling out the cats is really silly.
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No I'm sorry but this take is still horrible today.
Some of it is mysogynistic. Some of it is not. Claiming all girls portrayed anthropomorphically is mysogyny is frankly fucking ridiculous.
Not what I said
counterpoint: the furry fandom does have serious issues (related to grooming + sa more than the pictures on the Internet people hyperfocus on because they're more entertaining), but have you heard of "heterosexuals"
idk about bronies but from whatever little research has been done it does seem like a non insignificant % of furries ,male furries mainly, experience sexual attraction towards actual animals in various degrees
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/331375793_The_Furry_Phenomenon_Characterizing_Sexual_Orientation_Sexual_Motivation_and_Erotic_Target_Identity_Inversions_in_Male_Furries