• Infamousblt [any]
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    8 months ago

    Is that real? I can't believe the SCOTUS would rule 9-0 on something like that because it's actually both a hilarious thing to rule on and also extremely based to disallow public officials from blocking people on bird site

    • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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      8 months ago

      https://archive.ph/pYYAD (nbc news link)

      not only is it real, it's for the funniest reasons.

      • edge [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        The California case arose after two members of the Poway Unified School District Board of Trustees, Michelle O’Connor-Ratcliff and T.J. Zane, blocked parents Christopher and Kimberly Garnier from commenting on their Facebook page in 2017. O’Connor-Ratcliff also prevented Christopher Garnier from responding to her Twitter posts. Zane has since left office.

        I really want to know what was the dispute that led to that.

        This is the most I’ve found:

        Christopher and Kimberly Garnier, who have children attending PUSD schools, often criticized the board of trustees. They began posting lengthy and repetitive comments on the Trustees’ social-media posts—for instance, nearly identical comments on 42 separate posts on O’Connor-Ratcliff ’s Facebook page and 226 identical replies within a 10-minute span to every tweet on her Twitter feed. The Trustees initially deleted the Garniers’ comments before blocking them from commenting altogether.

        Which lmao, but it doesn’t say what the comments were about.

        Edit:

        In the years leading up to the dispute at issue in this case, the Garniers were especially vocal critics of the Board, particularly regarding race relations in the District, and alleged financial wrongdoing by then-Superintendent John Collins.

        regarding race relations

        Oh no. Still not specific enough though.

        • nemmybun [she/her, sae/saer]
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          8 months ago

          The Garniers left comments about the financial mismanagement by a former superintendent and about alleged incidents of racism.

          “I have children of color in the district, and I don’t want them going to school and seeing a noose or the profanity like that,” Kimberly Garnier testified.

          Source

        • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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          8 months ago

          Almost guaranteed that it was some inanity about CRT and wokeness. School boards across the country are being attacked over that shit. In my area, one of the Mom's for Liberty people has a son who's a Proud Boy :ralph-wiggum: and they all show up at school board meetings to yell and harass people about woke books.

          The Dollop did a whole thing on the shit going down in Dave Anthony's school district.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK-tTuhr4Fc

          • edge [he/him]
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            8 months ago

            lmao yeah I just found this

            In the years leading up to the dispute at issue in this case, the Garniers were especially vocal critics of the Board, particularly regarding race relations in the District, and alleged financial wrongdoing by then-Superintendent John Collins.

  • supafuzz [comrade/them]
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    8 months ago

    gotta find the line that will keep the secret service/FBI from coming to your door but will still give political ghouls' social media interns PTSD

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      8 months ago

      butthole pictures, basically

      you are entitled to a dick rating by your local politician

    • hotcouchguy [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      What about threats that are clearly non actionable? Like dropping a safe onto someone so they're flattened into a perfectly round oversize pancake?

      • Infamousblt [any]
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        8 months ago

        The problem is that you'd still have to defend that this is non actionable in court, which against a politician? Good luck. "I will de-limb Politician by summoning space aliens with giant laser swords made from Alpha Centauri Moonrocks until Politician dies" wouldn't even be ridiculous enough if the judge and the politician are somehow in cahoots.

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          8 months ago

          I have been talking about repealing the Hague Invasion Act which goes at all the worst ones while being entirely legalistic and therefore protected, yet still a distinct possibility for every government official in their 40's or 50's

        • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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          8 months ago

          Knowing the US, the judge will just institutionalize you then make you pay the bills despite being locked away from any kind of job

  • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    frothingfash: "In poopoopeepee county of Florida, we propose a right-to-bully law to make trans students official punching bags in schools!"

    gigachad: "Citizens now have a federal right to bully politicians online."

  • Kuori [she/her]
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    8 months ago

    finally, my death threats can be leveled at their intended targets instead of flung pointlessly into the void

  • D61 [any]
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    8 months ago

    If my wife was rich she'd have a field day with this... she harasses the shit outta local politicians on FB.

    • ZWQbpkzl [none/use name]
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      8 months ago

      Imaging paying $300 a month in residential proxy costs just to bully politicians an industrial scale.

  • ZWQbpkzl [none/use name]
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    8 months ago

    There's a difference between publicly commenting on a post and sending private messages. Does the ruling make a distinction?

  • Adkml [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    Can't wait for every unoriginal loser thinking they're super edgy for spamming slurs at public officials trying to get blocked by them.

  • Hexbear2 [any]
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    8 months ago

    This is really good, because it might open the door to additional lawsuits against public officials.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    8 months ago

    In a ruling written by Justice Amy Coney Barrett, the court acknowledged that it "can be difficult to tell whether the speech is official or private" because of how social media accounts are used.

    The court held that conduct on social media can be viewed as a state action when the official in question "possessed actual authority to speak on the state's behalf" and "purported to exercise that authority."

    While the officials in both cases have low profiles, the ruling will apply to all public officials who use social media to engage with the public.

    Ok so... The outcome of this is likely that it will stop public officials using social media except in an official and professionalised capacity. I suspect that is precisely what they intend anyway. There's probably some people high up who think mixing informal and formal interaction with the public is not good for public figures or institutions as a whole, and they're probably right because it really highlights what totally normal (and often dumb) people they are. Keeping all communications formal, official and with a lofty air of authority promotes a certain degree of reverence for institutions and public offices in the majority of people.

    Suing the shit out of them will be funny in the short term but this will strengthen public offices.

    • LaughingLion [any, any]
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      8 months ago

      you think some kind of professional ethic and sense of self preservation will stop them from being fools online? think again

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        8 months ago

        I mean sure. But the potential of legal cases will have some effect, not immediately but in the longterm establishing "I can get sued for the way I behave online as a public figure" will have a significant impact on behaviour online of those in office.

        I stress the fact that this will only occur if they do in fact get sued successfully and it becomes well established. If they fail to get it to happen and succeed then it will fail to have impact.

        I think the most important thing to take note of here is that there are some actively pursuing this. They view it as dangerous.

        Imagine if the whole ruling class were identifiable online and you could discern the working class from the top 1% online. Same effect would occur.