Star Trek Into Darkness is legitimately one of the worst films I've ever seen
Yeah, it's pretty much all psychic damage after the first 15 seconds or so
Are you saying you didn't enjoy the pro-colonialist opening, which involves using a cold fusion device to stop a mega-volcano from erupting and destroying a planet inhabited by violent, simple-minded, barbaric primitives?
It was the only film I walked out of the cinema on in my entire life.
I've never seen it because everything i hear about it, including especially this review, makes it sound like the Rise of Skywalker of Star Treks.
Yeah, that pretty much summerises it. Probably even worse than Rise of Skywalker imho but maybe that's because I'm more emotionally invested in Star Trek.
Was I supposed to laugh loudly in the theater when Spock screams "KHAANNNN!"? Because that's what I did...
It was so cool and Star Trek like when Spock went full American History X and curbstomped Khan on top of the bazinga flying car
The Klingon fight scene is the only cool thing about it and you can watch it on youtube
I extremely hate to break this to you but my chinese class is full of grindset business degree dumdums
All of my Japanese classes have been full of weebs from all walks of life
Shoutout to the guy in his 70s who declared the Maid Dragon anime to be his favourite show
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很非常好 👍Not sure that's right, but what can a Chinoob do except keep learning
Thanks! That's exactly the part I wasn't sure about
Star Trek was on life support until Trek '09 came around. So many young Trekkies now got started on those movies and saw that it wasn't something that only your white friend's dad watched. Bad or not, the fandom is bigger and more diverse than ever because those movies were made.
Into Darkness is :haram: tho
Bad or not, the fandom is bigger and more diverse than ever because those movies were made.
Oh shit, I finally get to say this unironically: but at what cost?
Is enlarging the Fandom good for the Fandom or just good for the shareholders? Does inviting in a crowd of people who fundamentally enjoy a different kind of show enrich the Fandom?
By analogy, Hexbear could probably be much bigger if we didn't ban and bully libs. Would that necessarily be a good thing?
Is enlarging the Fandom good for the Fandom or just good for the shareholders?
It's the latter. I've been through this cycle a few times in my life. Some thing starts out with very niche appeal. Fans enjoy thing. Fans convene. Thing get more popular. The creator dies/cashes out/is forced out. Capitalist IP holder focus tests the hell out of thing for "mass market appeal". IP holder runs the ol reliable "respecting existing fans while appealing to new generations" marketing spin. Then it is driven until the wheels fall off.
This is by no means important, but the Fallout franchise is something that used to mean a lot to me. The first two games were pretty fantastic imo. Since it's been taken over by Bethesda, it is absolutely more popular and made a lot of cash, but the theme and feel of the first games is long gone. Fallout is now Fallout™ where internal consistency doesn't matter, but who cares? It's just a video game.
But they don't enjoy a different show. Just because a kid's first food is chicken nuggets doesn't mean their palate is ruined. I've met many young fans who after seeing the movies went back to watch the older shows and loved them just as much as older fans.
Legitimately weirds me out that anyone likes any nuTrek, including the new shows.
Yeah it’s like someone who is really into DC superhero movies. It’s literally unfathomable to me. I’m not the biggest Marvel capeshit fan but I understand their appeal and they are well put together technically speaking. DC movies are shambling abominations and barely qualify as film
Same. I grew up on TNG and I tried to watch Discovery and it just... wasn't it. It feels like every other generic sci-fi series out there now. I always think it's funny that people like to shit on the "people sitting in a room debating space politics" trope, but that's what I liked about it, even as a kid.
TNG (at least after the first season and a half or so) is just an incredible show. It asks complex moral and philosophical questions, and actually takes them seriously. I was very young when it was on the air, and Picard was also a really excellent non-toxic male role model: decisive and commanding , but also kind, thoughtful, and emotionally intelligent. That was pretty rare in the late 80s and early 90s.
Except those new fans were fans of some abomination that wasn’t actually Star Trek, and appealing to this audience eventually resulted in Discovery and Picard. Time has shown going this route was a mistake
I got into it bc my communist friends were always going on about it and I’ve only watched up to the first season of voy. The nutrek stuff doesn’t look super appealing but to each their own
Did you read the comment where I said lots of new fans go back and watch older series and fell in love with them? Plus Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks, and Prodigy are all great Trek shows. They've made more than two.
It would be fine if the style of Trek that the original fans liked wasn't sidelined for over a decade, and if Strange New Worlds was actually an advancement of the formula rather than a retread of things we've already seen with a higher budget. It just feels like Trek is a shadow of its former self, and that the best Trek show is the parody from the Family Guy.
Maybe a new show will come out, or Strange New Worlds will start to get really good in its third season (like every previous Trek series lmao), and we'll just remember the 2010s as Trek's "Dark Ages".
Prodigy is really good albeit geared towards a tween-ish audience. Lower Decks is also more than parody. Its stories are pure Trek and the whole show drips with Mike McMahan's genuine love of the franchise. It really feels like people judge this stuff purely from promotional materials rather than actually give it a chance.
fans and their fandoms, name a more territorial tribe.
Why I Hate Coke Classic Compared to New Coke (1/503)What's wild about New Coke is that initially people liked it, disliking it just kind of "went viral".
New thing doesn't make me feel exactly the way I felt the first time I watched the old version. This scientifically proves that it is garbage.
As someone who has basically never watched Star Trek, this review seems beautifully poetic and actually makes me want to go watch the old episodes.
I've really liked it since I was a kid in the 1970s and it was in reruns. My suggestion is that you grab a torrent for all three seasons. If you want your dessert first - you can google for a "best episodes" list and watch those episodes first.
A google hint is Star Trek TOS (the original series). Also - be sure to avoid updated rips "improved" by removing the original practical effects and replacing them with shitty CGI that ruins the 1960s vibe.
If you watch 5 to 10 minutes of an episode and you think it's poor - just skip the rest. In my opinion - there's a fairly large number of bad/skippable episodes and they tend to be bad all the way through. I think season 3 is the weakest season by far. I'm not surprised the series got cancelled.
A lot of people would disagree and I'd never say this at most sites but the original Star Trek has a lot of filler and it simply isn't like a series like The Sopranos. Arguing with fanboys makes me grind my teeth. And because the series is pop culture Americana - fanboys are beyond tedious.
